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Day 2 Hip pain - which books to read?

Discussion in 'Structured Educational Program' started by walker, Mar 3, 2016.

  1. walker

    walker New Member

    Very excited that I will be able to get rid of this hip pain which I have had now for about 9 years (it's already started to shift quite a bit). Absolutely convinced that this pain is TMS, since it moves from side to side, comes and goes and is not consistent in how it reacts to exercise.
    I found my way here via a NZ chronic pain blog, which mentioned Steven Ray Ozanich's book 'The great pain deception', which I bought and read voraciously, and began feeling a decrease in pain as I read.
    Discovering this wiki has been wonderful, and I've started the SEP.
    One of the things I discovered on this wiki was the bibliography, and the book 'Will I ever be good enough? - Healing the daughters of narcissist mothers' - whoa, what an eye-opener… I didn't realise that that is what has been going on in my life for 50 years! I'm hoping that coming to terms with this will help resolve my TMS.
    Also looking for other books to read to keep me positive and my perception open. I haven't read any Dr Sarno - should I? And if so, which would be the best one, considering that I don't have back problems?
    Any other recommendations?
  2. Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021)

    Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021) Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi, Walker. TMS pain comes in many places such as hip and back pain. Dr. Sarno's theory about TMS, the MindBody connection, is that repressed emotions cause our pain, if nothing structural is found to be the problem. Even then, a structural problem may show on an X-ray or MRI, but it may not cause pain. I suggest you read Sarno's Healing Back Pain because it relates to hip and other pain, too. You can see videos about it on Youtube and in Google searches. Here is the crux of Sarno's healing theory,, involving his 12 Daily Reminders. I like the extended version by Herbie who is a healed member of this web site community.

    Herbie’s Extended Version of Dr. Sarno’s 12 DAILY REMINDERS

    1. The pain is due to TMS. This is real pain or anxiety but it is caused by subconscious tensions and triggers, stressors and traits to your reactions and fears and also when at boiling point your conscious tension can and does also cause real pain.
    2. The main reason for the pain is mild oxygen deprivation. This means that when you get in pain or anxiety then the blood is restricted from going to your lower back, for instance. The blood being restricted causes oxygen deprivation which causes the pain. Remember, where there is no oxygen then there is pain in the body. Also, the pain stays because of fear.
    3. TMS is a harmless condition caused by my REPRESSED EMOTIONS so even though you think you can harm yourself from the years of pain you have felt and how you feel in general -- so far no reports have been heard from TMS healing knowledge causing damage to anyone, it only helps.
    4. The principle emotion is your repressed ANGER -- this means under your consciousness lies something that happens automatically to everyone. TMSers have repressions that are stored because of our personality traits, traumas, stressors, fears, strain, etc... When these stored repressions build and build, then eventually they cause the brain to send pain into your body to keep you from having an emotional crises. The mind-body thinks it is helping you.
    5. TMS exists to DISTRACT your attentions from the emotions, stressors, tensions and strains of your personality traits because if you can get distraction then you won’t have to be in emotional turmoil. When you don't face and feel your emotions and they get repressed because you didn't want to deal with something -- they are just adding up in this beaker, ready to pour over and create real pain and anxiety in your body.
    6. Since my body is perfectly normal, there is nothing to fear. So in reality when I fear the pain or anxiety I just cause myself undo strain and tension adding to the beaker of pain. If I fear, then I feed the pain, If I fear, it’s impossible to recondition. Fear keeps the pain and anxiety alive in the body through focus.
    7. Therefore, physical activity is harmless. If I want to work against the pain I could but it’s better to lose some of the pain so when I start my life over I have to be in pain trying to heal because facing the repressions and all the other activities that cause the pain and reversing my fear and focus to them, then I can heal.
    8. I am resuming all normal physical activity. I don't fear moving anymore. I believe in my body’s ability to heal now. I can move as I want. I will not fear moving with a bent back anymore. I will also practice going out and acting normal again, not in fear of what pain might do to me.
    9. The pain is unimportant and powerless. Its only power is how it is hidden -- its illusion, its fear.
    10. I will keep my attention on the emotional issues. I will think about my emotions and feel my emotions throughout the day. I will not judge, criticize or fear my emotions. I will not run from my emotional issues but face every one of them. I will feel my emotions fully and cry if I need to. Then I will release the emotion and get my mind and thoughts back to my life and living in the present.
    11. I am in control of all of this. This is how I recover.
    12. I will be thinking PSYCHOLOGICALLY AT ALL TIMES. This means I will keep my thoughts on psychological issues like happiness, fear and anger -- traits and triggers, conditioning and journaling -- The science behind mind-body/TMS healing, etc.... This way I will not feed my thoughts to the body -- that is a trick of TMS. TMS will always try to get me to focus on the body caused by the pain until I break its show and flair. When I get my attention off physical symptoms and on to emotional issues and psychological issues then I will not feed the fear of the physical issues anymore, thus making the TMS of no pain effect on the body. This will in return, give us the cure and become pain-free.
  3. Andy Bayliss

    Andy Bayliss TMS Coach & Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi Walker, and Welcome!

    I would read a Dr. Sarno book as a basic education, in addition to the SEP. Don't forget to do the TMS Recovery Program which is short, and you can jump into that and pause the SEP any time. It is recommended as a beginning to do this work.

    I know someone who just got rid of her hip pain using Dr. Sarno's work. The work kicked in more when she began to journal and feel more, as in the SEP. She couldn't walk without poles, and now she's fine.

    Andy B
  4. walker

    walker New Member

    Hi Walt and Andy B

    Thanks for your replies!
    Walt, that is a great succinct list of Herbie's - I think a big one for me is the realisation that my hips are fine and that I'm not destroying them by walking on rough terrain, sitting at my computer etc. A year ago I could barely walk for ten minutes; last week I took myself on a 2-hour ramble - yay! But still some pain, especially at night. ( I've had them checked out by various medicos, had X-rays, MRI etc etc - can't find the problem - usual story hereabouts!). The emotional stuff is going to be harder to crack… I seem to get most emotional over good things - often crying in the face of positive stories… and feel myself harden in the face of negative news… hmmm.
    Andy B, yes, I did the TMS recovery program as 'week 0' as recommended, but will be looking at it again. That's great news about your friend who is now walking fine. I will get a copy of Sarno's Healing Back Pain and continue with the SEP. This wiki is absolutely wonderful!
  5. Freedom

    Freedom Peer Supporter

    Can the great pain deception be found on Audible? I looked for it but nothing came up
  6. mike2014

    mike2014 Beloved Grand Eagle

    Unfortunately not, I know he had plans to, but I'm not sure how far he has got with it. I heard from Steve a day or so ago and he's pretty wrapped up with the promo of the new book. So I suspect this has been put on hold.
  7. Lady Phoenix

    Lady Phoenix Peer Supporter

    NZ as in New Zealand? Glad to know TMS info is traveling the globe. Welcome Walker! Reading success stories is very helpful for some people and can be very encouraging and informative. Amazon has over 1,000 which is amazing for any author (Sarno). This wiki site also has success stories. You can go to the home page and click on "success stories database" on the left. There are actually 72 different disorders listed.

    I am always happy when I see someone who was once in pain now doing well and answering questions for newcomers. This happens all the time. You are fortunate to have stumbled upon TMS! Number 12 on the list is most important!

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