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Hemorrhoids - A REAL Pain in the A$$

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GTfan

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I've had to deal with this effers before, but I forgot how much of nuisance they are! I normally have very good, regular bowel movements. But, I do remember last week at some point I was straining a little bit, and thought "Uh oh, hopefully I don't get a hemorrhoid from that one".

Sure enough a few days later, the most uncomfortable thing on Earth popped into my life. Anyone have any success treating these as TMS symptoms? I have had a little bit of stress lately from multiple sources. And I have found myself in that "TMS Mindset" of obsessing of how uncomfortable I am all day, especially sitting in an office. Funny thing, I can run 6 miles and not feel any discomfort, but sitting in my office chair I can't stand.
 
Another funny observation, I made. I have started refereeing high school football for the first time this year. I have had some high pressure games this week with tense moments where I've had to make calls under pressure. After my last game, I even said to the other guys, "Man that last call will really make you clinch your ass tight, huh?"

I started getting the hemorrhoid the next day. The mind has jokes
 
I hear you, @GTfan. Myself, I have had an anal fissure that felt severe enough to go to a proctologist. According to previous MDs as well as the proctologist, it was extremely minor. To me, it felt anything but.

Unfortunately—or fortunately, depending on how you see it—that discomfort has been replaced by more pressing symptoms. The symptom imperative, you might say. These days that problem is gone for me. (Now I need to work on the “other” problem…. Which is the same problem manifesting differently.)

Freud was important to Sarno’s theory. I value Freud’s work and contributions as well. Freud constantly investigated how language codes psychology, often in jokes, puns, or slips of the tongue. It doesn’t take Freud, however, to see the significance of your “tight ass” observation, and how you link it with a period of high pressure and stress of a sports game! Hemorrhoids and fissures are often caused by hypertrophic muscles—straining, clenching, stretching—and guess what state of mind causes hypertrophic muscles? You got it—stress, pressure, tension, etc.

My proctologist prescribed an ointment designed to relax the offending muscles. It didn’t work. That’s probably because I was tense everywhere else, including mental tension.

Sarno mentions hemorrhoids specifically in his books. There’s also a folk wisdom in psychoanalysis and elsewhere that hemorrhoids result from “anal” personalities: people who are bottled up and restrict their exchange of input and output. It is totally relevant your discomfort is highest while at work.

In short— YES, treat this as TMS. This is not a “controversial symptom” in the TMS space, as far as I know, so you can enjoy assurance on that front. Your story—in particular, the setting up of the problem (fear and doubt) and then the realization of that problem (“I knew that was going to happen!”)—sounds TMS-typical to me.

I’d love to hear about your progress on this matter. Hope I’ve been of assistance to you.
 
anacoluthon33 said:
I hear you, @GTfan. Myself, I have had an anal fissure that felt severe enough to go to a proctologist. According to previous MDs as well as the proctologist, it was extremely minor. To me, it felt anything but.

Unfortunately—or fortunately, depending on how you see it—that discomfort has been replaced by more pressing symptoms. The symptom imperative, you might say. These days that problem is gone for me. (Now I need to work on the “other” problem…. Which is the same problem manifesting differently.)

Freud was important to Sarno’s theory. I value Freud’s work and contributions as well. Freud constantly investigated how language codes psychology, often in jokes, puns, or slips of the tongue. It doesn’t take Freud, however, to see the significance of your “tight ass” observation, and how you link it with a period of high pressure and stress of a sports game! Hemorrhoids and fissures are often caused by hypertrophic muscles—straining, clenching, stretching—and guess what state of mind causes hypertrophic muscles? You got it—stress, pressure, tension, etc.

My proctologist prescribed an ointment designed to relax the offending muscles. It didn’t work. That’s probably because I was tense everywhere else, including mental tension.

Sarno mentions hemorrhoids specifically in his books. There’s also a folk wisdom in psychoanalysis and elsewhere that hemorrhoids result from “anal” personalities: people who are bottled up and restrict their exchange of input and output. It is totally relevant your discomfort is highest while at work.

In short— YES, treat this as TMS. This is not a “controversial symptom” in the TMS space, as far as I know, so you can enjoy assurance on that front. Your story—in particular, the setting up of the problem (fear and doubt) and then the realization of that problem (“I knew that was going to happen!”)—sounds TMS-typical to me.

I’d love to hear about your progress on this matter. Hope I’ve been of assistance to you.
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Thanks for the response! Well I was hoping this would be a 3-4 day deal, but now it's been a week a I'm still dealing with the nasty guy.

I did get some hemorrhoid cream that I put on twice a day just for some temporary pain relief. However, I am trying my best to just not worry about it and put my mind elsewhere. Hoping this nasty guy is gone soon!!!
 
So, the sharp pain and tenderness is pretty much gone. I can still feel the hemorrhoid there, but its just not as painful. I have also noticed that uncomfortable feeling, tingling, or whatever you want to call it (over-obsession of there being a hemorrhoid in my a$$ pretty much lol) seems to ramp up when I'm doing something stressful or I'm repressing anger. So I feel like this a step in the right direction, but I also would wish that the damn thing would go away!

I've read similar stories of people just accepting their bodies not being perfect all the time (while also knowing they don't have cancer or a medical emergency) and just living without holding back from normal life or over-obsessing about these things. So I think I will do that. I will get back into my running routine and weight lifting without holding back to just worry about the stupid hemorrhoid!
 
This is so timely - I am dealing with my first bout of hemorrhoids myself! My stress and worry about them is way through the roof, and I'm hoping that a TMS approach is indeed the cure. Its hard because not a lot of TMS literature discusses hemorrhoids.

@anacoluthon33 do you remember where Sarno refers to hemorrhoids and TMS? I looked in the indexes of the books I have with no luck.
 
blackcat said:
This is so timely - I am dealing with my first bout of hemorrhoids myself! My stress and worry about them is way through the roof, and I'm hoping that a TMS approach is indeed the cure. Its hard because not a lot of TMS literature discusses hemorrhoids.

@anacoluthon33 do you remember where Sarno refers to hemorrhoids and TMS? I looked in the indexes of the books I have with no luck.
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Not sure about Sarno, but I know that Steve O mentions it in his book in the appendix in the back of the book
 
blackcat said:
This is so timely - I am dealing with my first bout of hemorrhoids myself! My stress and worry about them is way through the roof, and I'm hoping that a TMS approach is indeed the cure. Its hard because not a lot of TMS literature discusses hemorrhoids.

@anacoluthon33 do you remember where Sarno refers to hemorrhoids and TMS? I looked in the indexes of the books I have with no luck.
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Sorry, I forgot to reply to you.

Funny, I can't find where I saw the references. Maybe I'm crossing some wires. Sorry about that. Regardless!—it seems @GTfan found a mention in Steve O, and is seeing progress himself.
 
GTFan - Late reply, but it's awesome that you can see this direct connection between thoughts like "uh oh, I hope I don't get xyz..." and what ends up happening. I can think of hundreds of cases where this happened in my life before I discovered TMS and recognized them as such. "Oh no, I'm getting a sore throat, hope I don't get sick for the big ski trip next week!" (bam, I would get sick)

My mind/brain keeps trying these tricks even today, but I am much better at recognizing them now. Sounds like you are too.
 
anacoluthon33 said:
I hear you, @GTfan. Myself, I have had an anal fissure that felt severe enough to go to a proctologist. According to previous MDs as well as the proctologist, it was extremely minor. To me, it felt anything but.

Unfortunately—or fortunately, depending on how you see it—that discomfort has been replaced by more pressing symptoms. The symptom imperative, you might say. These days that problem is gone for me. (Now I need to work on the “other” problem…. Which is the same problem manifesting differently.)

Freud was important to Sarno’s theory. I value Freud’s work and contributions as well. Freud constantly investigated how language codes psychology, often in jokes, puns, or slips of the tongue. It doesn’t take Freud, however, to see the significance of your “tight ass” observation, and how you link it with a period of high pressure and stress of a sports game! Hemorrhoids and fissures are often caused by hypertrophic muscles—straining, clenching, stretching—and guess what state of mind causes hypertrophic muscles? You got it—stress, pressure, tension, etc.

My proctologist prescribed an ointment designed to relax the offending muscles. It didn’t work. That’s probably because I was tense everywhere else, including mental tension.

Sarno mentions hemorrhoids specifically in his books. There’s also a folk wisdom in psychoanalysis and elsewhere that hemorrhoids result from “anal” personalities: people who are bottled up and restrict their exchange of input and output. It is totally relevant your discomfort is highest while at work.

In short— YES, treat this as TMS. This is not a “controversial symptom” in the TMS space, as far as I know, so you can enjoy assurance on that front. Your story—in particular, the setting up of the problem (fear and doubt) and then the realization of that problem (“I knew that was going to happen!”)—sounds TMS-typical to me.

I’d love to hear about your progress on this matter. Hope I’ve been of assistance to you.
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anacoluthon33 said:
I hear you, @GTfan. Myself, I have had an anal fissure that felt severe enough to go to a proctologist. According to previous MDs as well as the proctologist, it was extremely minor. To me, it felt anything but.

Unfortunately—or fortunately, depending on how you see it—that discomfort has been replaced by more pressing symptoms. The symptom imperative, you might say. These days that problem is gone for me. (Now I need to work on the “other” problem…. Which is the same problem manifesting differently.)

Freud was important to Sarno’s theory. I value Freud’s work and contributions as well. Freud constantly investigated how language codes psychology, often in jokes, puns, or slips of the tongue. It doesn’t take Freud, however, to see the significance of your “tight ass” observation, and how you link it with a period of high pressure and stress of a sports game! Hemorrhoids and fissures are often caused by hypertrophic muscles—straining, clenching, stretching—and guess what state of mind causes hypertrophic muscles? You got it—stress, pressure, tension, etc.

My proctologist prescribed an ointment designed to relax the offending muscles. It didn’t work. That’s probably because I was tense everywhere else, including mental tension.

Sarno mentions hemorrhoids specifically in his books. There’s also a folk wisdom in psychoanalysis and elsewhere that hemorrhoids result from “anal” personalities: people who are bottled up and restrict their exchange of input and output. It is totally relevant your discomfort is highest while at work.

In short— YES, treat this as TMS. This is not a “controversial symptom” in the TMS space, as far as I know, so you can enjoy assurance on that front. Your story—in particular, the setting up of the problem (fear and doubt) and then the realization of that problem (“I knew that was going to happen!”)—sounds TMS-typical to me.

I’d love to hear about your progress on this matter. Hope I’ve been of assistance to you.
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Hello, I red your post and it gives me reassurance that anal fissure pain should resolve in time. I am journaling my childhood traumas and facing cruel mother in my memories by protecting little girl. Anal fissure pains started to subside for sometime during the day and then reappear again... I am also following fissure healing protocol.
the strange thing was yesterday when my daughter opened up to me with a lot of her emotional stuff and I told to her its alright to feel anger and rage with one particular situation and that this situation is not as bad as it seems and in the future will be the source of happiness for her but she is not able to see it right now....


so yeah, reliving painful emotions and trying to be alright with the process.. its not easy- especially how mentally distressing it feels.

I know its stupid and in the future It most probably wont bother me
but right now this anal skin lump/bump that formed after anal fissure is killing me mentally... I have no idea if you ve got it but if yes - how you managed to accept living with it?


thanks
 
I am back dealing with this almost exactly one year later! After having an incredibly stressful week, I thought to myself that I was handling it quite well without any major TMS symptoms. Well, then guess what popped up? Ha! Good reminder to take it easy on myself :)
 
I have been down your road many times, even had them removed. Would never do that again. I spent two wks when I knew I needed to use the BR running a hot bath, trying to go and getting a hot bath to soak as I sobbed from the pain. I discovered Magneium. My life changed and I know longer have that problem. I take a magnesium supplement almost daily, 250mg. The most dangerous part of straining to go is having a stroke. I feel for you as it's so miserable to go through. Check with your Doc and they will probably advise colac etc. Only Mag supplement worked like a charm for me. I feel your pain and then it becomes a fear of having to go. I hope you feel better soon. Please remember to check the magnesium with your Doc if you wish to try it. Nancy
 
nancy said:
I have been down your road many times, even had them removed. Would never do that again. I spent two wks when I knew I needed to use the BR running a hot bath, trying to go and getting a hot bath to soak as I sobbed from the pain. I discovered Magneium. My life changed and I know longer have that problem. I take a magnesium supplement almost daily, 250mg. The most dangerous part of straining to go is having a stroke. I feel for you as it's so miserable to go through. Check with your Doc and they will probably advise colac etc. Only Mag supplement worked like a charm for me. I feel your pain and then it becomes a fear of having to go. I hope you feel better soon. Please remember to check the magnesium with your Doc if you wish to try it. Nancy
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did you experience - anal tightness (like anal stenosis feeling) after your surgery? due to scar tissue overgrowth from removed hems...if yes, how long it took for that anal tightness to get better? thanks
 
I had them removed right in the Dr' office. I will admit I was not happy for about 2 wks. I would never have it done again. My relief came from a hot bath as many times as I had to to relieve
the discomfort. I feel for you. I had no scar tissue issues, just gave it time to heal. No tightness, maybe your fear is causing your overthinking, it did with me because I could hardly walk at times. I also used creams to bring down the swelling to alleviate the pain. Feel free to ask anything, anytime. I also took a wk off work for vacation time just because I needed to not keep walking to heal or irritate the area. Check on that Magnesium too, makes it much easier to go, check with your Doc as I said. I'ts only a mineral in pill form. Things will improve if you keep them up, I still take Mag on a reg basis and I have no problems. Hope this info helps you. Nancy
 
I do believe that those nasty hem are a result of stress, I was just trying to help you avoid them with a mineral after checking with yiur Dr. Let me know if you decide to try it and it solves your problem. Nancy
 
nancy said:
I do believe that those nasty hem are a result of stress, I was just trying to help you avoid them with a mineral after checking with yiur Dr. Let me know if you decide to try it and it solves your problem. Nancy
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Dear Nancy, thanks for your reaching out! I am going to begin 8th month of my fissures horror... I am managing now to have some discomfort and feeling something off in my anus , during BM there are traumatising pains that are so soul crushing and meaning that fissures and scar tissues are still active ...General practitioner told that it takes months and months to heal fissures , plus my natural body s healing was hijacked with 1 month of use of strong cortisone creams ... I think I am better now cause since my fissures my latest cold episode lasted only 5 days with only honey, lemon and ginger intakes....I will ask about magnesium this upcoming monday - he will see me at 13.00 PM.... I am reading now Gabor Mate - When Body says NO -wish I could go back in time and discover this book earlier - would have saved so much pain and trauma to myself....
 
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