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Help me ideate on a business to help people with TMS!

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  1. Baseball65

    Baseball65 Beloved Grand Eagle

    I had a powerful spiritual experience in my early 20's. I couldn't believe how OBVIOUS it was that God was there, loved us, always has and always will and there was nothing we could do to lose that love.

    Churches on every corner. Synagogues. The 'spiritual center' I passed in Malibu.... The Hindu Temple up the street from it. How did I miss it?

    Oh. I never LOOKED until I was desperate for Him. I needed him badly and none of my efforts were working. So I gave up. And then God came. No Church or religion necessary!

    And that was EXACTLY how my experience with TMS was. I was literally told about Sarno by my neighbor, right after my very first Doctor visit about my Back, but I had to exhaust all of my own attempts and 'fixes' before I would listen
    Sarno said the same thing in "Rejecting the diagnosis" in Healing Back pain!!

    Maybe not everybody is as hardheaded and ego filled as I was, but most of my friends I approached who were already "In the system" have shooed me away. My sister is on like her 4th or 5th back surgery? My Friends with expensive health insurance believe in the system..until it kicks them out.

    My friend who committed suicide over his pain issues last year was despondent over losing his healthcare policy. He always scoffed when I told him about Sarno. I remember thinking to myself that he might be more receptive when they wouldn't give him any more operations, but I never got a chance to speak with him again.

    Just as Jesus preached to the desperate downtrodden and the poor, the only place I can think of that Sarno's idea's might have a better chance is the Chronic pain care centers...You know, the DUMPSTER of the pain industry?

    My most receptive (and now pain free) friends and acquaintances have all been too poor to get into the system in the first place...mostly through a lack of insurance.
    More pain, and less insurance. I don't want to be cynical BUT I can't see any facet of the for-profit medical world supporting Sarno's idea's. ....they made about $100k off of my insurance in a year and a half. Then I spent 11 bucks and they never saw me again (except once when I went to show off and preach Sarno)

    Science has become a religion of sorts, and just like all those religions kept me from God, my rigorous scientific evaluation kept me from Sarno, the truth and being healed.
     
  2. Sita

    Sita Well known member

    It's true what Baseball65 said. Same here, I had to get desperate, I mean really really desperate to cry for God, to God, to shout at God...if there was a God somewhere ... he had to help me because I could not help myself. And no one could.

    I cried on my knees, literally. And I was helped. No religion needed. Just letting go, deep surrender. Humble. And after some time I realized that I could surrender even more. And then, even more...I suppose I'll do it, I'll continue to surrender to God even more until I'm out of here, dead. Not in the body anymore.
     
  3. Ellen

    Ellen Beloved Grand Eagle

    I have very little tech knowledge, as @JanAtheCPA knows well :) However, I just asked the free version of an AI program (Gemini) how I would know if I have TMS and what I should do to treat it. I was surprised at how good and comprehensive the answer was. However, when I asked what I should do if I have Fibromyalgia and Chronic Migraine (my original primary TMS symptoms), I was given the usual BS medical response. This makes me wonder if there is a way to better train AI to include a TMS strategy when people ask about chronic physical symptoms, since I think people are increasingly using these LLM AI tools to search for answers.
     
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  4. JanAtheCPA

    JanAtheCPA Beloved Grand Eagle

    That's way more than I've been willing to do, @Ellen! I'm impressed.

    And what a perfect depiction of the essential dichotomy we are up against. I think I'll have to alert Forest to this, as he's the techie over at the PPDA (or ATNS in their rebrand, I guess).
     
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  5. Ellen

    Ellen Beloved Grand Eagle

    I suppose it all relates to what @Bonnard wrote about Search Engine Optimization. I think we can teach computers to do better before the medical industrial complex.
     
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