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Great news from my surgeon :)

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by UkAdR, Apr 25, 2014.

  1. UkAdR

    UkAdR Peer Supporter

    Hi all.

    I have some news - saw my orthopedic surgeon recently and told him all about the approach I was taking - journalling, thinking positive, more activities etc. I didn't mention TMS per se, but all the strategies for dealing with it and thinking more psychologically I told him.

    He was really happy and said this is a great approach and that it's a far better option than surgery. It was refreshing to hear I have his support and that he backs the approach. I was really pleased and he's discharged me back to my doctor's care for now with the option to go back to him any time in the future should I need.

    I was wondering - has anyone else ever got as far as discussing surgery and had this approach negate the need for it? Also, did you discuss the approach with your surgeon? On a side note also, I am in the UK. I was wondering if people think that maybe surgeons here are more likely to get behind something like this as our health system is public - they will get paid regardless of how many surgeries they do, and if this is perhaps the reason for the extreme focus on surgery being the answer in the USA - what with the focus on the health system being insurance based?

    Love to hear from people as always. And high five for no surgery for now due to TMS healing! dancea

    Adam ;)
     
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  2. Richsimm22

    Richsimm22 Well known member

    Glad you posted this one. Its excellent news.
     
  3. Richsimm22

    Richsimm22 Well known member

    My xrays and mri never showed any abnormalities. I was always made to believe my posture was causing my pain. I did however have a fused vertebrae in my neck that showed up in my scan. Obviously I must have been born like this. It has never caused me any pain or restriction but I imagine if I went in with neck pain then this would be blamed for it.
     
  4. Walt Oleksy

    Walt Oleksy Beloved Grand Eagle

    Lots of things can cause us to have a pain in the neck.

    My "goodism" nature led me to try to help a cousin get her book published.
    That began two months of phone calls, emails, online searches, editing, and
    I could tell that if I let her, she would eat me alive. I kept trying to get through
    to her that I have two jobs and am working on my own books for publication besides,
    and am just too busy to help her anymore. She kept calling and emailing
    so I just told her to stop. I doubt she will, but I'll just ignore her now.
    I did more than ten people could have. Enough is enough, and I don't feel guilty
    for not continuing to help her. I am just relieved it's over.

    She didn't give me neck pain, but enough stress to wear me down.
    Now I'm lifting myself up, patting myself on the back for trying to help her for so long.

    Be careful your goodist nature doesn't give you a pain in the neck or maybe even a lot lower.
     
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  5. Walt Oleksy

    Walt Oleksy Beloved Grand Eagle

    That lot lower pain was the word Liza Doolittle said in "My Fair Lady,"
    urging her horse on in the Darby.
     
  6. Steve Ozanich

    Steve Ozanich TMS Consultant

    I was a couple weeks away from my final surgery consult when I was introduced to Dr. Sarno's work. I've never looked "back."

    That's a really good question about the 2 different healthcare systems and TMS acceptance by physicians. My guess is there are pockets of differences. The docs that want to operate will always do so, those here that aren't totally in it for the cash will be more open. Those who believe in TMS will not operate.

    Remember, you don't need a doctor to tell you that you can heal. You only need one to clear you, from there it's up to you to heal.

    Steve
     
  7. UkAdR

    UkAdR Peer Supporter

    Steve - I completely agree with the 'balls in your court' approach to TMS. Its difficult to do this sometimes for definite - I know I am STILL not 100% convinced that I have TMS. The thing I am finding difficult is that if it is so right and works so well, why is it not more prevalent in society that this will help to heal now? It seems so strange that something so good would be so difficult to find out about.

    On the other hand, I am feeling better! It makes me angry that I am not believing myself more and able to commit fully and 100% to this - I have evidence from myself that its working! Its definitely the hardest paradigm shift in understanding that I've ever had to try and convince myself of. I am still reading your book and have just got to chapter 14 about what you need to do to heal, and am finding it interesting. I think that my impatience sometimes negates my enjoyment of the chapters where you go into more depth about the 'why' behind TMS. I found exactly the same with John Sarno's books; I enjoyed them more almost the second time because I wasn't anticipating the 'ok, come on, how to I heal??' chapters and was able to digest the information in the more in depth sections better.

    I hope I've explained that correct and it doesn't sound like a negative view on the book - I really am enjoying it!



    Rich - I think its awesome that your MRI's don't show any abnormalities - it really does sound like TMS there as there's literally nothing to suggest otherwise. I can tell from the way you've thrown yourself into it that you believe that too. Really pleased for you mate :)
     
  8. Steve Ozanich

    Steve Ozanich TMS Consultant

    I agree with you UKAdr, I enjoy the books more after I've gone through them and stopped hoping for holy grails. It's within the words that you begin to piece the puzzle together. There isn't a phrase or word that normally heals people, it's seeing the whole picture, and THEN living it. I simply painted a larger picture for those that couldn't see the beauty in Dr. Sarno's paintings.

    You asked why this isn't more prevalent in society? Good question! That's my main focus. The process no doubt works, it's been proven too many times and long ago. So why isn't this part of culture? It gets complex when you look at it. I wrote a paper for publication called "Why Don't People Want to Heal?"

    1) the medical industry (as a whole) could care less about healing; treating is their goal, not healing. Healing implies no more drugs, or surgery, or office visits.
    2) the sufferers themselves want treated, healing usually takes a back seat.
    3) those groups that think they're on the TMS side, eg, acupuncture, chiros, holistic healers, are actually hurting healing the most by ironically creating a confusion of placebo processes. Within each placebo, healing becomes less possible.
    4) those who are national leaders of their causes, RSD, RSI, back pain, fibro, etc..don't want anything to do with healing. Their cause is their passion, their reason for getting up in the morning, the thing that gives them purpose in life. They aren't interested in healing. I've been interviewed by them, and Veasley sat next to Dr. Sarno in the Senate and said that she was insulted by the notion of TMS. Healing is not within their vocabulary because they're blinded by their own cause (Ego: means "me").
    5) Correlation errors: When people lift something and get pain, they correlate lifting with pain, or sitting or bending, etc., whatever the activity. Their deeper brain connects the movement to pain, and so it's very difficult to un-connect that error because it makes too much sense to the inner brain.
    6) we live within a paradigm that feels as though physical problems have structural causes, ie, the techno-medicine era. We've become arrogant enough to feel we can outsmart Mothernature. Science has done some amazing things and should be commended. But regarding "chronicity," science is the problem.
    7) Ego

    People often get upset if I say "people don't want to heal" or most doctors "could care less." But if you take this information to someone, professional or otherwise, and you say, "here...here is something that can take away your suffering forever..." They will reject it outright. So do they want to heal? My answer has always been, no. They only want to heal in the way THEY want to heal, and so they really don't want to heal. How do I know? I was once one of those people. My ego kept me in perpetual suffering. Truth heals us.

    Steve

    PS: Not being ready to heal = not wanting to heal (yet)
     
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  9. Walt Oleksy

    Walt Oleksy Beloved Grand Eagle

    A friend's boss is having leg pain and his doctor diagnosed it as sciatica.
    My friend is someone who never wants to hear about anything from anyone...
    he knows it all... so I won;t even try to help his boss by suggesting he read about TMS.

    Too bad, because his boss probably is just under a lot of stress being CEO of a large
    publishing company in these times when print books are an endangered species
    and competition is very rough for even ebook publishing. So his boss probably
    has a problem handling stress and may also be a perfectionist, or maybe even has
    personal problems.

    If I knew how to contact his boss, I might tell him about TMS.
     
  10. Steve Ozanich

    Steve Ozanich TMS Consultant

    All truth must be revealed, it cannot be impressed upon us. But it's still within our obligation to offer it up.

    There are 2 ways to shed light; 1) become the light or 2) to reflect the light.
     

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