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Sarah89

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Is glute pain like gluteal amnesia a TMS symptom?
As soon as I sit down my butt goes to sleep and it hurts like hell.
And I have back pain when I walk.
Is this TMS?
 
Sarah89 said:
Is glute pain like gluteal amnesia a TMS symptom?
As soon as I sit down my butt goes to sleep and it hurts like hell.
And I have back pain when I walk.
Is this TMS?
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Those are two of the most common symptoms... When my Back 'pain' began, it was a slow numbness that crept doen my leg... I tried to ignore it, but it got worse until I had to walk by manually 'escorting' my leg forward.
That turned into spasms in the butt, turned into pain up and down the leg and finally up my back.

If you read the main Text written by the founder of our way of thinking "Healing Back Pain" by John Sarno, you will find your symptoms are 'normal' and there is nothing wrong with you that educating yourself will not heal....

Most of us had similar symptoms in varying degrees and locations.

Welcome, you're in the right place...

GET THAT BOOK!
 
Baseball65 said:
Those are two of the most common symptoms... When my Back 'pain' began, it was a slow numbness that crept doen my leg... I tried to ignore it, but it got worse until I had to walk by manually 'escorting' my leg forward.
That turned into spasms in the butt, turned into pain up and down the leg and finally up my back.

If you read the main Text written by the founder of our way of thinking "Healing Back Pain" by John Sarno, you will find your symptoms are 'normal' and there is nothing wrong with you that educating yourself will not heal....

Most of us had similar symptoms in varying degrees and locations.

Welcome, you're in the right place...

GET THAT BOOK!
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Thank you. I have read the book. But must people are complaining if more like sharp pains. Mine isn't. Mines like a deep ache in both buttocks and when I sit down it goes to sleep and burns.
Are there any success stories for that?
 
It doesn’t matter about anyone else’s pain or how they feel it or any other tiny detail. Not everyone describes their discomfort the same way.

I suggest you read any book by Dr. Sarno again, and notice the type of people he describes as being subscribe to TMS - and look to see if you feel a connection to those pages.

Notice what Dr. Sarno says to do about the pain: to open your mind to thinking psychologically and to turn away from fear and obsessive worry about the symptoms.

When you hold stress in the mind, it reflects as tension in the body -anywhere. The sensations it will give you get your attention any way they can to alert you to the stress you mostly likely do not recognize you are generating.

We’re here to support you on your journey to end the mental suffering created by the stress. When this happens, the physical symptoms eventually subside.

So let us know if any of the book resonates with you!
 
Cactusflower said:
It doesn’t matter about anyone else’s pain or how they feel it or any other tiny detail. Not everyone describes their discomfort the same way.

I suggest you read any book by Dr. Sarno again, and notice the type of people he describes as being subscribe to TMS - and look to see if you feel a connection to those pages.

Notice what Dr. Sarno says to do about the pain: to open your mind to thinking psychologically and to turn away from fear and obsessive worry about the symptoms.

When you hold stress in the mind, it reflects as tension in the body -anywhere. The sensations it will give you get your attention any way they can to alert you to the stress you mostly likely do not recognize you are generating.

We’re here to support you on your journey to end the mental suffering created by the stress. When this happens, the physical symptoms eventually subside.

So let us know if any of the book resonates with you!
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Thank you. I have most of the personality traits.
I would commit to this completely because it happened after trauma too.
But one person has told me it could be from vit b12 deficiency and now my brain has latched on to that.
 
What do you choose to believe, now that you have the B12 information but you have two pieces of information from Dr. Sarno's book - personality traits and trauma that are common traits of people who seem to have TMS.

It's up to you to make the decision, and you can choose to both. You can take a B12 supplement a few days a week (I do, I'm vegan, however your symptoms are not common in B12 deficiency) if you aren't vegan then B12 deficiency is highly unlikely. At the same time you can learn the skills to deal with TMS and end your suffering - both physically and mentally.

Best wishes!
 
My b12 lab results were borderline. So you don't think it sounds like a b12 problem? People are going on and on about the b12 but the pain started after stress AND csnt stress affect absorbtion anyway.
Does it sound like TMS synptoms you've heard before?
 
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BloodMoon said:
If you use the search function (top right of the screen) and search for 'sitting pain' a load of threads will come up about it. This is a particularly good one imho https://www.tmswiki.org/forum/threads/tms-pain-while-sitting.4552/ (TMS Pain While Sitting) which has Steve Ozanich's words of wisdom about it. (Steve recovered from sitting pain and back pain and other symptoms and wrote a book about it.)
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I don't really understand what he did for that. He says he just sat there til it went? How? What help was his wife hitting him in the legs? Lol. I don't understand the method
 
@Sarah89 Sorry, I got interrupted and distracted by someone when posting to you and meant to say that I read that in recent times Steve has advised that he doesn't recommend such extreme 'gung ho' (seemingly comical) all-in-one-go tactics, but nevertheless it's still all about steeling yourself (having the determination and courage) to sit despite the pain. The idea is to challenge and defy your brain by gradually increasing the time that you sit. By doing so you're telling your brain that you know what it's up to, that you know that there is actually nothing physically wrong going on and there's nothing to fear. (If you don't know what the brain is up to when it's TMSing you can find out by reading any of Dr Sarno's books.)
 
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@Sarah89 Further to my reply to your questions (above)... Steve O writes in his book that he got his wife to hit his legs while he was sitting to act as distraction -- The premise is that the pain and/or other symptoms are a conditioned response (think Pavlov's dogs) and he wanted to break the focus (the conditioning) by creating an alternative distracting pain. The more intense the pain got with sitting, the harder he asked his wife to hit his legs. The sitting pain got worse and worse but then after 30 minutes of refusing to yield to it, refusing to stand up, his sitting pain ceased and he cried tears of joy. He also writes in his book that after that session he has never had the return of his sitting pain. (As I mention above, Steve O doesn't recommend following his lead with this - as we can defy our TMSing brains in a gradual fashion by gradually increasing the time we sit - but that was the way he conquered his sitting pain.)
 
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Baseball65 said:
until I had to walk by manually 'escorting' my leg forward
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I forgot you’ve mentioned this before that you had this. I remember when my doctor said I had deconditioning due to COVID and you basically said that was not true. I didn’t believe you then. But I do now. It’s amazing what TMS can create, to the point of weakness in one leg, even.
 
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BloodMoon said:
@Sarah89 Further to my reply to your questions (above)... Steve O writes in his book that he got his wife to hit his legs while he was sitting to act as distraction -- The premise is that the pain and/or other symptoms are a conditioned response (think Pavlov's dogs) and he wanted to break the focus (the conditioning) by creating an alternative distracting pain. The more intense the pain got with sitting, the harder he asked his wife to hit his legs. The sitting pain got worse and worse but then after 30 minutes of refusing to yield to it, refusing to stand up, his sitting pain ceased and he cried tears of joy. He also writes in his book that after that session he has never had the return of his sitting pain. (As I mention above, Steve O doesn't recommend following his lead with this - as we can defy our TMSing brains in a gradual fashion by gradually increasing the time we sit - but that was the way he conquered his sitting pain.)
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Thank you so much. I have to say I like the idea of doing it in one sitting but I don't think I have anyone willing to hit me
 
Diana-M said:
I forgot you’ve mentioned this before that you had this. I remember when my doctor said I had reconditioning due to COVID and you basically said that was not true. I didn’t believe you then. But I do now. It’s amazing what TMS can create, to the point of weakness in one leg, even.
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I have been doing this since 98 or 99 and the list of peculiar, non consistent things it has appeared as is pretty long. Thankfully I always had the text of Sarno's books to guide me. None of these has lodged for more than a week or so...some have left in days and hours.

If you got a time machine and took me back and said "I have a solution for you, but 10 days a year you might be uncomfortable" I would have said "No problem! Sign me up!"
Besides back pain, I have had
Shoulder issues (couldn't raise it up)
Knee issues (swollen and painful)
Foot issues (felt like a nail being driven into my heel)
Shin splints, Hip Problems and Hand , neck and arm issues.

I am probably forgetting something. It tends to want to distract me the most when I am trying to relax. If TMS is sneaking in, I'll notice it at bedtime when I want to read and 'check out'. For the last couple weeks, ever since that growth appeared on my LEFT hand, it has been TRYING to lodge in my right hand..and I keep ignoring it and doing what I want but I also 'turn my thoughts to a recurrent source of irritation'. While I am working it doesn't bug me...but when I try to play guitar, read, just chill....ouch!

From MUCH writing and reflection, I know that I think I have to live in a spartan state of punishment and existence because I do not think i have the right to exist...I need to prove my worth every day, every minute, over and over. Oh, I don't walk around thinking that....it's buried good and deep and the TMS is there to make sure I don't keep discovering more. THAT is probably why it starts when I try to relax "Uh oh... he's not distracted...he might figure this out..lets turn up the temperature"

It is always stuff that is 'no big deal'. Stuff that 'adult me' thinks is trivial and not worth my attention because I am so f-ing mature and spiritual (N't)

reviewing the text always directs me to the real problem..and it ain't 'out here' it's 'in there'
 
Baseball65 said:
From MUCH writing and reflection, I know that I think I have to live in a spartan state of punishment and existence because I do not think i have the right to exist...I need to prove my worth every day, every minute, over and over.
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I have this too. It’s Sad….Lately, I’m just super exhausted from all the therapy, journaling and analysis. Maybe I’m finally getting to where I need to be. I give up. I’m too tired to fight this anymore. I guess I’ll just try and live as is and wait it out for awhile. Work on calming the anxiety. But Sarno stuff isn’t putting a dent in it for me. Well, that’s not true. It puts a dent in it. But there’s just a LOT of it.

You have really mastered figuring this out!
 
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