Frozen shoulder is gone gone gone

[Calum]

Hi Mike, thanks for this success report, it’s an important reminder for me that the little aches and niggles I’m experiencing aren’t a physical problem and to just get out and enjoy the things I love doing.

Cheers,

Calum

 

[Balsa11]

Here is a little report of the amazing things that happened today.

Thanks to Mikes story and some questions in this program about when I did some physical activity for the last time, I spontaneously decided to do exercises on my stepper upstairs in the bedroom. I saw, when I went there, my mind criticizing me I'm being foolish and too impulsive, and that I should be careful about my shoulder, but still I went on.

I started stepping and at the same time singing out loud 'There's nothing wrong with my arm and shoulder, tralala', very playfully and quite loudly so I could hear myself very clearly. And guess what, in a couple of minutes the shoulder relaxed completely, and I felt blood flowing into it. I felt happy and normal as if my shoulder was 100% healthy. I went on for 10 minutes. Amazing, because I have hardly moved my body in the last week. That was so much trust.

I saw during exercising that the mind kept quiet and actually didn't try to prove that I was wrong. The experience was so obvious and real. This was about four hours ago and still my shoulder feels so much alive, soft and relaxed.

I realized that I've cut through a lot of fear to hurt my shoulder. Every doctor or physiotherapist had told me until now, that moving the shoulder again would cost me a couple of months. And that I first have to wait for the inflammation to go away. Also a friend of mine who has had a frozen shoulder warned me about this. It took her 3 years. Fear can be so strong.

I am so grateful that I found today my own way and not copying Mike. I have tried though, but laying on my back didn't work at all. I didn't gave up, and followed the impulse he gave me. So grateful to you Mike!

I also relate to the other shoulder starting to hurt. That happened today too. What an amazing phenomena. I have seen and experienced it so many times that the pain sometimes wanders through the body. Because of the experience while stepping, I managed to not go with the fear and trust there's nothing wrong with my body.

I also remembered today a kind of a prayer that I've worked with often: 'I am healthy, perfect, strong and vital, filled up with love, harmony and happiness'. I started singing that too and I am very curious where this all will bring me.

In the meantime I go on with Day 5 of the program.

But a stepper has nothing to do with shoulders

 

[Balsa11]

Here is a little report of the amazing things that happened today.

Thanks to Mikes story and some questions in this program about when I did some physical activity for the last time, I spontaneously decided to do exercises on my stepper upstairs in the bedroom. I saw, when I went there, my mind criticizing me I'm being foolish and too impulsive, and that I should be careful about my shoulder, but still I went on.

I started stepping and at the same time singing out loud 'There's nothing wrong with my arm and shoulder, tralala', very playfully and quite loudly so I could hear myself very clearly. And guess what, in a couple of minutes the shoulder relaxed completely, and I felt blood flowing into it. I felt happy and normal as if my shoulder was 100% healthy. I went on for 10 minutes. Amazing, because I have hardly moved my body in the last week. That was so much trust.

I saw during exercising that the mind kept quiet and actually didn't try to prove that I was wrong. The experience was so obvious and real. This was about four hours ago and still my shoulder feels so much alive, soft and relaxed.

I realized that I've cut through a lot of fear to hurt my shoulder. Every doctor or physiotherapist had told me until now, that moving the shoulder again would cost me a couple of months. And that I first have to wait for the inflammation to go away. Also a friend of mine who has had a frozen shoulder warned me about this. It took her 3 years. Fear can be so strong.

I am so grateful that I found today my own way and not copying Mike. I have tried though, but laying on my back didn't work at all. I didn't gave up, and followed the impulse he gave me. So grateful to you Mike!

I also relate to the other shoulder starting to hurt. That happened today too. What an amazing phenomena. I have seen and experienced it so many times that the pain sometimes wanders through the body. Because of the experience while stepping, I managed to not go with the fear and trust there's nothing wrong with my body.

I also remembered today a kind of a prayer that I've worked with often: 'I am healthy, perfect, strong and vital, filled up with love, harmony and happiness'. I started singing that too and I am very curious where this all will bring me.

In the meantime I go on with Day 5 of the program.

I thought for a frozen shoulder, nowadays doctors want you to get moving asap and would start with PT (that's what they did for my dad)?

 

[Balsa11]

Thank you so much for this!
I have been having shoulder troubles since August!! (Was thrown off my horse in June, concussion, ambulance, terrifying).
Wrote about the fall on TMS forum and committed to not sublimating my fear, anger and sadness at being thrown.
No matter how many feelings I have felt, and I am very honest with people close to me, the pain has worsened. It's like my body is crying. I finally saw a orthopedist, even though I scoff at anything but TMS as a diagnosis.
I have had five physical therapy sessions and... the pain is worse. I don't want to get hit by a truck to get over this.
I've just had some miserable times since the concussion. Afraid to ride, afraid to ride alone on trail, afraid of my horse. Wanted to sell him, it was suggested I wait a year - since he's a wonderful horse - I love him to bits! So, I've been riding, facing fear. For a few months, I cried every time I rode.
See? I'm feeling all the feelings that arise.
Unconscious feelings that are under the shoulder pain?
I clearly have some more exploring to do.
Deep breath.
When in deep process, dive deeper.

Maybe meditation or trauma therapy could help?

 

[Bodhigirl]

I do both. The worst thing is more grief. My horse wrecked himself and was euthanized which left me with more pain - in the midst of the coronavirus sheltering. ingot to work with Alan Gordon for two sessions in Beverly Hills and no pain.
Then it comes back.
It’s my body, crying. And crying. And tired of grieving. Yet I have to.
Did EMDR. Now I do breathwork for the grief. It’s wonderful and healing, at a deep somatic and spiritual level.

 

[Balsa11]

Sounds like you've been feeling really lonely with all the grief on top of lockdown. Oh and when I was talking about meditation, I meant like simple belly breathing just to release tension. The relaxation of the breathing kind of floods the body if you continue a bit even after a flareup. Sometimes symptoms get out of control when we overcomplicate things.

 

[mugwump]

I'm new here, but have been a Sarno-holic since his first book. Then when Howard Stern (of all people) wrote the amazing story of curing his OCD in his book Miss America, I went deeper into studying TMS.

Here's one time I forgot about it:

A few years ago, I noticed I couldn't sleep on my left side due to shoulder pain (I sleep with my arm bent at the elbow under my head as most people do). Soon it became full born frozen shoulder. I had never heard of this. Went to my GP, who said "yep, adhesive capsulitis, don't move your arm to anywhere it makes pain. Pain is nature's way of telling you to stop" (Sorry Doc, wrong wrong wrong. Pain is often something the brain uses to distract us from something inside us that it doesn't want to face.)

Time goes on, and it became more and more painful. I couldn't lift my arm above shoulder level. Now, you may ask, "why, Mike didn't to make the TMS connection, if you were so aware of TMS?" My answer- "Dunno". I just didn't think of it.

I go to a specialist on shoulders. Nice guy. But he builds it more in my mind to be structural. And it gets worse (wow amazing!! textbook!)

Sooo. A lot of people I know have had this. My friend got it from throwing a ball to his son. He goes the whole process, two surgeries, physical therapy, etc. They also want me to go to therapy. It was even clicking so loud (heavens!)... so I almost went to PT. Almost.

Then........ then, I talk to Cheri.

Cheri is a friend of ours, and had this shoulder problem for a long time. Really really bad. Surgeries, therapy, I mean for years. I never knew much about it. Her physical therapist put her through a lot of pain. And nothing worked. Nothing.

Until....

She got hit by a truck.

That's right. Hit by a truck. She was in a crosswalk with her boyfriend, and a truck veered and hit them both. She went flying. Arms up. Feet up. Was in the hospital for a while, then out rehabbed slowly.

Fast forward a few years. We're at dinner, and I was having my shoulder thing going on, and getting ready to start PT. Hurt bad that night. Cheri was there, and I remember that she had had so much trouble wiuth her shoulder. I asked her how she is now. And she says perfect. Can move her shoulder all over, no pain. And I ask her what did she do to stop it. "Got hit by the truck" she says. "My arms flew back over my head. And I had a lot of others things to deal with. Forgot about the shoulder completely."

Then it clicked in me. She couldn't get over it cause she needed it. She had TMS, and it released her from the pain when she had a much bigger distraction. "Thank you for your service frozen shoulder. Your services are no longer needed."

The next morning, I went to my workout room, laid on the mat, and moved my arms up and out and all over, in such pain... I moved them everywhere. Unafraid. "There's nothing wrong with you, now move it up".

And guess what.... a week later I'm completely pain free and can move it anywhere. It was a little tight extending outward with my hands behind my head (a little ole TMS residual), but no big deal. I was cured. That was three years ago. It's gone gone gone.

Here's another interesting little footnote... As I'm writing this, guess who's shoulder aches a little. Yep... even just writing it down activates the old TMS pathway... as if TMS is saying, "Wait... Shoulder pain... will that distract you? Can I use that? Can I? Can I?

Good Golly, TMS. Are you that desperate?

"Yep."

I love reading this. Thank you so much for explaining

 

[PsychePsyche]

Sounds like you've been feeling really lonely with all the grief on top of lockdown. Oh and when I was talking about meditation, I meant like simple belly breathing just to release tension. The relaxation of the breathing kind of floods the body if you continue a bit even after a flareup. Sometimes symptoms get out of control when we overcomplicate things.

You're very right about it. Overcomplicating simple symptoms will get worse.

 

[fridaynotes]

I’m glad I just read this thread because i’ve been suffering from a tight, popping shoulder that I initially thought was due to my work. since i’ve realized it’s TMS the pain has decreased drastically. although it’s still a bit of a challenge to get the pain to total subside, i’ve been doing Dr Schecter’s 30 day writing workbook and it’s been very helpful keeping my mind on the emotions and not on the pain.

 

[Barb]

I'm new here, but have been a Sarno-holic since his first book. Then when Howard Stern (of all people) wrote the amazing story of curing his OCD in his book Miss America, I went deeper into studying TMS.

Here's one time I forgot about it:

A few years ago, I noticed I couldn't sleep on my left side due to shoulder pain (I sleep with my arm bent at the elbow under my head as most people do). Soon it became full born frozen shoulder. I had never heard of this. Went to my GP, who said "yep, adhesive capsulitis, don't move your arm to anywhere it makes pain. Pain is nature's way of telling you to stop" (Sorry Doc, wrong wrong wrong. Pain is often something the brain uses to distract us from something inside us that it doesn't want to face.)

Time goes on, and it became more and more painful. I couldn't lift my arm above shoulder level. Now, you may ask, "why, Mike didn't to make the TMS connection, if you were so aware of TMS?" My answer- "Dunno". I just didn't think of it.

I go to a specialist on shoulders. Nice guy. But he builds it more in my mind to be structural. And it gets worse (wow amazing!! textbook!)

Sooo. A lot of people I know have had this. My friend got it from throwing a ball to his son. He goes the whole process, two surgeries, physical therapy, etc. They also want me to go to therapy. It was even clicking so loud (heavens!)... so I almost went to PT. Almost.

Then........ then, I talk to Cheri.

Cheri is a friend of ours, and had this shoulder problem for a long time. Really really bad. Surgeries, therapy, I mean for years. I never knew much about it. Her physical therapist put her through a lot of pain. And nothing worked. Nothing.

Until....

She got hit by a truck.

That's right. Hit by a truck. She was in a crosswalk with her boyfriend, and a truck veered and hit them both. She went flying. Arms up. Feet up. Was in the hospital for a while, then out rehabbed slowly.

Fast forward a few years. We're at dinner, and I was having my shoulder thing going on, and getting ready to start PT. Hurt bad that night. Cheri was there, and I remember that she had had so much trouble wiuth her shoulder. I asked her how she is now. And she says perfect. Can move her shoulder all over, no pain. And I ask her what did she do to stop it. "Got hit by the truck" she says. "My arms flew back over my head. And I had a lot of others things to deal with. Forgot about the shoulder completely."

Then it clicked in me. She couldn't get over it cause she needed it. She had TMS, and it released her from the pain when she had a much bigger distraction. "Thank you for your service frozen shoulder. Your services are no longer needed."

The next morning, I went to my workout room, laid on the mat, and moved my arms up and out and all over, in such pain... I moved them everywhere. Unafraid. "There's nothing wrong with you, now move it up".

And guess what.... a week later I'm completely pain free and can move it anywhere. It was a little tight extending outward with my hands behind my head (a little ole TMS residual), but no big deal. I was cured. That was three years ago. It's gone gone gone.

Here's another interesting little footnote... As I'm writing this, guess who's shoulder aches a little. Yep... even just writing it down activates the old TMS pathway... as if TMS is saying, "Wait... Shoulder pain... will that distract you? Can I use that? Can I? Can I?

Good Golly, TMS. Are you that desperate?

"Yep."

 

[cloud]

Thnx for posting that story.Shoulder pain is my symptom imperative at thetime

 

[cloud]

Hi there. Frozen shoulder is my symptom imperative. It has even hurting for 2 months now and getting worse. I am going to start the sarno healing procedure and hopefully get better.Thanks for sharing such a hopeful success story