For several months, close to a year, I've been getting this pain on the top of my right foot when walking. I can only describe it as something slips out of place or needs to crack but won't. It HURTS when it happens. It always gets me when I'm walking around the grocery store or mall etc. It comes completely out of the blue when it happens. What is this?
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Foot pain, TMS?
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Foot pain is definitely mentioned by Dr Sarno. So yes it is very possible it could be TMS. It's hard to say you know, ive had weird clicks in my spine in mid back and neck when I had bad TMS and when it got better the noises went away, so maybe the same type of thing is happening with you foot.
What others will likely tell you, and I would agree if you are really worried maybe get it checked, like an X-Ray so you can see if there is even anything going on structurally. There may be others on this forum that have had the same symptom as you maybe they will reply.
You mention it's out of the blue, are you stressed out about anything at these times when it occurs?
What others will likely tell you, and I would agree if you are really worried maybe get it checked, like an X-Ray so you can see if there is even anything going on structurally. There may be others on this forum that have had the same symptom as you maybe they will reply.
You mention it's out of the blue, are you stressed out about anything at these times when it occurs?
Dear Leslie
How annoying! I have had plantar fasciitis (or so they thought it was) for quite a long time, in both feet! In fact, it was so bad that I had to walk on crutches for several months, not being able to do anything. Me, a perfectly healthy young girl that normally exercised 3 - 4 times in the week. It was a horrible time, since I went to so many doctors but no one could really help me and it only seemed to get worse, without any perspective of healing.
In the end I found out about dr. Sarno, read the book and applied the principles. All the pain went away quite quickly in both feet. Truly amazing.
You can always get an X-ray but beware; I did the same and on the X-ray there was swelling/inflammation. You would say it would be physical instead of TMS, but in fact the pain AND the physical appearance were caused by TMS.
Hope this helps..
How annoying! I have had plantar fasciitis (or so they thought it was) for quite a long time, in both feet! In fact, it was so bad that I had to walk on crutches for several months, not being able to do anything. Me, a perfectly healthy young girl that normally exercised 3 - 4 times in the week. It was a horrible time, since I went to so many doctors but no one could really help me and it only seemed to get worse, without any perspective of healing.
In the end I found out about dr. Sarno, read the book and applied the principles. All the pain went away quite quickly in both feet. Truly amazing.
You can always get an X-ray but beware; I did the same and on the X-ray there was swelling/inflammation. You would say it would be physical instead of TMS, but in fact the pain AND the physical appearance were caused by TMS.
Hope this helps..
FredAmir
Well known member
Hi Leslie,
Looks like when your mind begins to relax (at the mall), your TMS manifests itself. When you cannot stand something, your foot begins to hurt! See my blogpost on why you hurt where you hurt.
http://www.fredamir.com/single-post/2016/10/13/Why-You-Hurt-Where-You-Hurt (Back Pain)
Generally, if it has been going on for several months, it is most likely TMS. But I do second Sofie's suggestion to have it examined by a doctor.
Looks like when your mind begins to relax (at the mall), your TMS manifests itself. When you cannot stand something, your foot begins to hurt! See my blogpost on why you hurt where you hurt.
http://www.fredamir.com/single-post/2016/10/13/Why-You-Hurt-Where-You-Hurt (Back Pain)
Generally, if it has been going on for several months, it is most likely TMS. But I do second Sofie's suggestion to have it examined by a doctor.
I don't suggest you see a doctor. I meant be careful taking the decision to go to the doctor. If you go, the doctor might tell you that there actually is a physical problem while often it is not. For me this works counterproductive. Stopping to visit doctors and focussing on the mind helped me to get rid of the problem.
Un0wut2du
Peer Supporter
I can only comment on my experience with a similar foot pain. I went to the podiatrist and thought "surely he will know EXACTLY what this is because he's the specialist and my symptoms are clear." He said......"I dont know." So, TMS...... It's gone now.
The more we maintain focus on the body the farther we get from healing.
Tennis Tom
Beloved Grand Eagle
I'm reading Monte Hueftle's vintage TMS book, "GET RID OF THAT PAIN IN YOUR BUTT NOW!", he is a MARATHON RUNNER and a TMS practitioner, I just read the page where he says foot pain is usually TMS.
Jackhammer
New Member
My pain started in my back, left there and went into my right leg, and now is only the bottom of my right foot.
I thought it was an old "jones fracture" injury that broke again, and then after months the pain will leave for days and return for a reason I haven't figured out. What I am sure of is that it is the "symptom imperative" at work.
I try and ignore it as much as possible, and seem to be getting somewhere with that. When the pain is too great to continue walking, I stop, take a few deep breaths, and do what I call a "reset". That does help.
Knowing that it will disappear for days gave me evidence that TMS is playing it's tricks. There is a lot of comfort in that!
Best to you all.
I thought it was an old "jones fracture" injury that broke again, and then after months the pain will leave for days and return for a reason I haven't figured out. What I am sure of is that it is the "symptom imperative" at work.
I try and ignore it as much as possible, and seem to be getting somewhere with that. When the pain is too great to continue walking, I stop, take a few deep breaths, and do what I call a "reset". That does help.
Knowing that it will disappear for days gave me evidence that TMS is playing it's tricks. There is a lot of comfort in that!
Best to you all.
Lately I've been operating on the assumption that any out-of-the-blue pain is TMS related and experienced this exact pain last week about halfway through a run. I was tempted to turn around and limp back home, but then thought better of it. Instead, I got curious about what was really bothering me and focused in on it... and poof.... the pain disappeared. It certainly could have been the endorphins from running that made the pain go so quickly, who knows for sure, but I think not.
Tennis Tom
Beloved Grand Eagle
That's a good TMS assumption to work with! The Good Doctor, said you can't hurt yourself, sitting, sleeping wrong or doing everyday activities that didn't incur traumatic injuries--"If it's too heavy to lift you couldn't lift it." But, the modern medical/industrial complex takes advantage of these niggling aches and pains. It fans the fires of fear in the culture, in order to profit, or to protect their butts from malpractice lawsuits, practicing defensive medicine--over imaging, over diagnosing, citing benign structural anomalies, and over RX'ing.
Boilerplate--I don't want to get sued either : If the condition persists get it checked out, preferably by a TMS savvy physician, there's a list of them here--I'm only a tennis player.
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MrSurvivor
New Member
Not sure if this is still active, but if so I'm wondering if anyone can help with some doubt on a foot question. Recent cancer survivor, about a year ago I started getting all kind of weird stuff - back pain, stomach issues, reflux, mouth pain, anxiety, fatigue, hand and foot pain. Been to lots of docs of course. Read through two of Dr. Sarno's books this week. Wow, seems like I fit the personality profile and history of issues. My challenge is been having foot pain for months, come on middle of the night after a day of walking. I have been to three podiatrists, all of whom have made it worse - orthotics, injection, iontophoresis, metatarsal pads, taping. One took an MRI and said there is an area of inflammation but he can't explain why. How do you tell if it should go in the TMS group? If so, how do you get your brain over the "inflammation" question? Saw that Newcomer had that experience. Anybody else have foot issues and need to get over a scan?
Un0wut2du
Peer Supporter
You have already gone way beyond proving it is TMS. You've been to the podiatrist and others who are simply treating a symptom. Now you know it's not anything dangerous. Then Dr. MRI basically told you "I dont know." All of the others treating symptoms are doing this to appease you. This means they too do not know. It's TMS. Again, you did the checking, nothing dangerous, they are only treating symptoms - Its TMS. You have had a rough ride so dig deep. Get in there and do the tough emotional work. Yes, I've solved foot pain with this work. But I would ask of you to no longer focus on the "where" in the body the pain is or the "how" it feels. This is all focus on the external, on the body and physical realm. Thats where TMS takes us. So for this pain and the next one, you do just what you've done. Got it checked out, nothing dangerous. Then you will see the treatments are all based on symptoms with no focus on a cure, its TMS. Also, read Sarno's "The Divided Mind." He really takes a swing at what's become the 'business' of care. He even references disease like cancer as very possibly having an emotional link. Emotional stress, trauma, neglect etc all take a toll on ones immune system (and autonomic nervous system) which could allow in something the system would normally fight. It fascinating. Our emotional state should be the priority. Everything else will fall into place.
If you haven't done therapy, I highly suggest it. I believe there are those who specialize in your situation as a cancer survivor. Dig into those feelings. If going through that isn't trauma, I dont know what is.
Your foot is fine. You've proven it to yourself. Now listen to that! Read that book too. You're doing great.
MrSurvivor
New Member
Man, I would hug you if I could. You are right it helps not to think about it as "this pain or that pain" but more that my body is doing odd things as my brain is trying to sort itself out. Nothing dangerous. I definitely believe that my cancer was influenced by stress. The year before I was diagnosed I had the most stressful year of work I have ever had, with a lot of conflict and pressure. I think this weakened my immune system and kept my body from fighting it off. Aaarg. Wish I had gotten a wake-up call sooner. I think what finally clicked for me was one doctor asking me, "What were you like before all this?" Once I realized that I have a pattern of this kind of stuff on a smaller scale for years, the lightbulb went on. Introduce something totally traumatic and no surprise what is going to happen. I am just one week in, after having read Dr. Sarno, so figuring out what is next. Journaling and reading. Recruiting some support. The therapy suggestion is a good one. I have a navigator through the hospital, so I'll ask for suggestions. I live in kind of a depressed area so not sure if any around here will be up on TMS but worth asking. Thanks for the straightforward advice and challenge. It is TMS!
Boston Redsox
Well Known Member
Hello All
I been dealing with foot pain in both feet for the last 10 yrs with no resolve in Symptoms I have stabbing , electric sensation, burning , cramping sometimes in runs up to my knee caps ....I have seen dr specialist and so on also seen a Tms dr here in Boston and was diagnosed with Tms have done all the required reading journaling mediation feeling your emotion accepting forgiving you name it ...and no change .. have tried all meds you name it no relief with a exception of a benzo to relax me ...I Exercise everyday I bike lift weight never any real discomfort it’s only when I am still or at work and when there is weather changes I am on fire ..
I been dealing with foot pain in both feet for the last 10 yrs with no resolve in Symptoms I have stabbing , electric sensation, burning , cramping sometimes in runs up to my knee caps ....I have seen dr specialist and so on also seen a Tms dr here in Boston and was diagnosed with Tms have done all the required reading journaling mediation feeling your emotion accepting forgiving you name it ...and no change .. have tried all meds you name it no relief with a exception of a benzo to relax me ...I Exercise everyday I bike lift weight never any real discomfort it’s only when I am still or at work and when there is weather changes I am on fire ..
Un0wut2du
Peer Supporter
Boy, so much to say here.... First, I was addicted to benzos for years. If you are wondering why no progress, start there. These are heavy and addictive tranquilizers DESPITE how "safe' your prescriber is saying they are. They are not. You say you have done all of this work but I must bring this to your attention - how can you expect feelings to be felt when you are numbing them with a tranquilizer? Any alcohol or other recreations substance is the same. I'm afraid you've have set yourself up for failure here. Ditch the benzo, then you can feel and heal. And to do it under direction of a doctor. Benzos have a wicked withdrawal. They must me tapered. TMS healing will NOT work if we lean on external things = Procedures, treatments and meds. Your work is on the inside and that med is blunting it. Really, really think about what I have said here. Also, the symptoms are not important and your post here tells me you are very focused on them. Your descriptions, the locations, the weather etc. All of this is more focus on external distractions. They have told us for decades that weather causes pain. It does not. Read the book again. Read the Steve Ozanich books. Something is not clicking for you. This is very clear from you post. Keep digging, ditch the med, read MORE. You will get there.
Un0wut2du
Peer Supporter
I think I have seen survivor or similar on the psychology today site, trauma for sure. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists (Find a Therapist, Psychologist, Counselor - Psychology Today) This is a great tool. There are tons of search criteria. In you area you can check my method, treatment category, insurance accepted etc. I was thinking that way for the cancer survivor, trama. Otherwise if you want TMS based this site has a list but the pain psychology center does all skype sessions. If the hospital is your best option than I would do that for sure. Therapy can't hurt, I am a strong proponent.
I must also suggest the Steve Ozanich books. He was healed after reading Sarno's books and worked with him a bit. He now is dedicated to speaking/teaching this info and counseling. Sarno endorsed his first book. The first book "The Great Pain Deception" is PACKED with info. I am reading his second book and coincidently, just hours after responding to you I read a page in there about a cancer survivor named Stephen Flynn who is convinced his cancer was influenced by his emotional condition. So strange I just read this today - His second book is "Back Pain - Permanent Healing" and it was on page 118.
Keep digging. It's all inside there.
MrSurvivor
New Member
Thanks so much. That doesn't sound like coincidence! I'll get Ozanich's book asap. I'm looking at the therapist list. I feel like I would really benefit from someone who does TMS and I don't mind Skype so I'll look for the list here and the pain psychology center? Thank you so much for helping me!
It’s absolutely TMS. I’m going through quite a few things myself regarding the feet and it’s really nice to see that there’s other folks out there going through the exact same thing I am. If you want to chat by phone, you can DM me. I’m retired Air Force and I’ve been going through this for about three years and I’m still waiting for it to completely disappear, but I know it will. What makes my case a little more complicated is the fact that I actually do have fibromas on the bottom of my feet, which are benign tumors, but everything else is absolutely TMS
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Tmswarrior32
Peer Supporter
Interesting I have been diagnosed with Morton neuroma on one foot and I had alllll the physical sensations and I started implementing tms and it is starting to go away I have a few days I have no symptoms at all. They come and go now but no more zapping like I had in the behinning