Stephanie71
Peer Supporter
Hello,
I'm Stephanie. Thank you for reading this. I have worked a TMS program over the past five years to get rid of neck and shoulder pain successfully, but I have had chronic leg pain (ONLY in the left leg, all my pain has been on left side) since I was eighteen, and nothing seems to make it go away completely. The symptoms are not always severe or painful, but there is always strange discomfort and a feeling of something being structurally wrong with the leg. For example, if I am sitting on the floor and I straighten both legs, the left one feels hyperextended, as if there is a brick sitting on top of the knee. There is also pain in the back of the knee. I also have buttock pain, as well as some nerve symptoms in the outer ankle and foot; if I press that area, there are tingly zappy sensations and slight numbness. The leg feels weaker than the the right one and just in a constant state of tightness, as if there is a metal rod in it or something. I can stretch it and be active (yoga, running) without excruciating pain, but the problem is that it just constantly feels “off” and different from the right leg. The leg hurts too if I stretch it. The knee feels unstable. The sciatica nerve hurts. It’s like symptoms in every region of the leg! And it feels very structural. I had a knee MRI done way back in 2004, and that showed nothing. I was diagnosed with piriformis syndrome and did physical therapy before I discovered Sarno in 2010. I later had a low back MRI in 2011, and that was also clean as a whistle.
I have done a lot of TMS work, with a therapist, with writing, with getting active again, with ignoring the pain. Much of the pain in other parts of the body lessoned or went away, like the neck pain. But the leg symptoms have never seemed to truly leave, and I am really struggling with believing that there is not something “wrong” with my leg. I admit I have a lot of fear.
Here’s why: When I was eighteen, (I’m 30 now) I was doing a very deep dancer stretch after a run (my right leg pulled behind me nearly to my head) and I heard something snap loudly in my left leg. I don’t remember there being a great amount of pain, and I never saw a doctor or anything for it. I don’t even think I told my parents. I just kept doing what I did, like dancing, yoga, and I remember there being discomfort but never excruciating pain. This happened around June 2003. Then in October, I began to notice the symptoms I described above, mostly a sharpness and tightness in the back of the leg and knee area and a discomfort when I tried to exercise. The leg just felt “off.” I did not have any low back pain yet. I ignored it for a long time, (was going through a whole bunch of other concerning stuff) until finally a few years later I began seeing doctors. I mentioned to them what I believed was a hamstring injury, but no doctor seemed concerned or like it needed any testing or imaging done. I am now afraid that I really damaged a muscle, nerve, or ligament in the left leg and it was never properly diagnosed and treated. I am wondering If I may have even avulsed the hamstring from the bone in some area or had terrible ligament or tendon tears. It feels that way. The leg pain has never moved to the leg - it has always been in the left, making me think even more it is structural.
I admit fully that I fit the TMS type. I am hard on myself, goodist, people-pleasing, critical, striving, etc. I come from a lot of trauma and abuse. I totally believe in TMS - I have done TMS work to get rid of other pain. I have read and re-read Sarno books and all the others. I have begun listening to his audiobooks, too. I am trying again from scratch, to see if I can be free from this once and for all. I don’t know if my reservations about the leg stuff are real or because my mind is being stubborn due to the fact that I once had a an injury there that I never treated. I have found stuff on google that say that old hamstring injuries can in fact cause chronic pain… (I know, I know, I should avoid Google!) and so I feel a lot of guilt and anger about not addressing it “properly” when I was a teen. Sarno says that leg pain comes from what is happening in low back and buttocks, but I had leg pain first, before I had any symptoms in the low back and buttock - I had this leg stuff from eighteen to twenty-two before it really started to bother me enough to finally seek doctors and get to the bottom of it. I sometimes fear I have damaged my left leg inalterably, and that TMS work is not going to address it. I know these are strong feelings. But after re-reading Sarno, I feel like this leg stuff doesn’t totally fit the typical TMS process. The injuries Sarno speaks of are ones in the back, no? Or am I reading it wrong? I feel discouraged because there is a part of me that totally believes this is TMS and is willing to go to any lengths, and I just keep feeling discouraged by waves of doubt.
Can anyone relate to this? Does anyone have advice? I am desperate. I was very depressed and suicidal seven years ago because of the pain, but the past five years have been mostly positive as I rebuilt my life in many ways. And I learned to just live with the leg stuff and ignore it. I often did not have pain, but there were ALWAYS symptoms, if that makes sense. It has never felt right to straighten the leg while sitting or lying in bed. I do it anyway, but it often feels uncomfortable. It always feel heavy, tight, over-stretched, hyperextended feeling and sometimes a lot of pain. There is always more pain after running or doing a vinyasa yoga class, and then it subsides slightly but still symptoms. I don't want to just ignore it anymore - I want to be free!
So to summarize this grand opus, I guess my question is, is it really normal for TMS to strike in any region where there was an injury, not just in the back? Do all injuries really heal, even without proper rest and intervention? Could my leg have become damaged due to changing the way I functioned from when I first started to have pain? Thank you so much for reading my post and for your responses.
I'm Stephanie. Thank you for reading this. I have worked a TMS program over the past five years to get rid of neck and shoulder pain successfully, but I have had chronic leg pain (ONLY in the left leg, all my pain has been on left side) since I was eighteen, and nothing seems to make it go away completely. The symptoms are not always severe or painful, but there is always strange discomfort and a feeling of something being structurally wrong with the leg. For example, if I am sitting on the floor and I straighten both legs, the left one feels hyperextended, as if there is a brick sitting on top of the knee. There is also pain in the back of the knee. I also have buttock pain, as well as some nerve symptoms in the outer ankle and foot; if I press that area, there are tingly zappy sensations and slight numbness. The leg feels weaker than the the right one and just in a constant state of tightness, as if there is a metal rod in it or something. I can stretch it and be active (yoga, running) without excruciating pain, but the problem is that it just constantly feels “off” and different from the right leg. The leg hurts too if I stretch it. The knee feels unstable. The sciatica nerve hurts. It’s like symptoms in every region of the leg! And it feels very structural. I had a knee MRI done way back in 2004, and that showed nothing. I was diagnosed with piriformis syndrome and did physical therapy before I discovered Sarno in 2010. I later had a low back MRI in 2011, and that was also clean as a whistle.
I have done a lot of TMS work, with a therapist, with writing, with getting active again, with ignoring the pain. Much of the pain in other parts of the body lessoned or went away, like the neck pain. But the leg symptoms have never seemed to truly leave, and I am really struggling with believing that there is not something “wrong” with my leg. I admit I have a lot of fear.
Here’s why: When I was eighteen, (I’m 30 now) I was doing a very deep dancer stretch after a run (my right leg pulled behind me nearly to my head) and I heard something snap loudly in my left leg. I don’t remember there being a great amount of pain, and I never saw a doctor or anything for it. I don’t even think I told my parents. I just kept doing what I did, like dancing, yoga, and I remember there being discomfort but never excruciating pain. This happened around June 2003. Then in October, I began to notice the symptoms I described above, mostly a sharpness and tightness in the back of the leg and knee area and a discomfort when I tried to exercise. The leg just felt “off.” I did not have any low back pain yet. I ignored it for a long time, (was going through a whole bunch of other concerning stuff) until finally a few years later I began seeing doctors. I mentioned to them what I believed was a hamstring injury, but no doctor seemed concerned or like it needed any testing or imaging done. I am now afraid that I really damaged a muscle, nerve, or ligament in the left leg and it was never properly diagnosed and treated. I am wondering If I may have even avulsed the hamstring from the bone in some area or had terrible ligament or tendon tears. It feels that way. The leg pain has never moved to the leg - it has always been in the left, making me think even more it is structural.
I admit fully that I fit the TMS type. I am hard on myself, goodist, people-pleasing, critical, striving, etc. I come from a lot of trauma and abuse. I totally believe in TMS - I have done TMS work to get rid of other pain. I have read and re-read Sarno books and all the others. I have begun listening to his audiobooks, too. I am trying again from scratch, to see if I can be free from this once and for all. I don’t know if my reservations about the leg stuff are real or because my mind is being stubborn due to the fact that I once had a an injury there that I never treated. I have found stuff on google that say that old hamstring injuries can in fact cause chronic pain… (I know, I know, I should avoid Google!) and so I feel a lot of guilt and anger about not addressing it “properly” when I was a teen. Sarno says that leg pain comes from what is happening in low back and buttocks, but I had leg pain first, before I had any symptoms in the low back and buttock - I had this leg stuff from eighteen to twenty-two before it really started to bother me enough to finally seek doctors and get to the bottom of it. I sometimes fear I have damaged my left leg inalterably, and that TMS work is not going to address it. I know these are strong feelings. But after re-reading Sarno, I feel like this leg stuff doesn’t totally fit the typical TMS process. The injuries Sarno speaks of are ones in the back, no? Or am I reading it wrong? I feel discouraged because there is a part of me that totally believes this is TMS and is willing to go to any lengths, and I just keep feeling discouraged by waves of doubt.
Can anyone relate to this? Does anyone have advice? I am desperate. I was very depressed and suicidal seven years ago because of the pain, but the past five years have been mostly positive as I rebuilt my life in many ways. And I learned to just live with the leg stuff and ignore it. I often did not have pain, but there were ALWAYS symptoms, if that makes sense. It has never felt right to straighten the leg while sitting or lying in bed. I do it anyway, but it often feels uncomfortable. It always feel heavy, tight, over-stretched, hyperextended feeling and sometimes a lot of pain. There is always more pain after running or doing a vinyasa yoga class, and then it subsides slightly but still symptoms. I don't want to just ignore it anymore - I want to be free!
So to summarize this grand opus, I guess my question is, is it really normal for TMS to strike in any region where there was an injury, not just in the back? Do all injuries really heal, even without proper rest and intervention? Could my leg have become damaged due to changing the way I functioned from when I first started to have pain? Thank you so much for reading my post and for your responses.