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  1. Sienna

    Sienna Well known member

    Hello everyone,

    I had been through a tough period feeling physical and mental fatigue that doesn't allow me to do a normal life ( stopped exercising, can only work part-time, find it hard to get focused, read... etc).

    At the beginning I was diagnosed with anemia, and it made sense as I had stopped eating meat last year.
    But now my iron level is normal again and I still feel weak and tired. The last blood tests showed some thyroid anormality (hipo), and according to the Doctor I have all the common symptoms: fatigue, cold feet and dry skin.

    I am still waiting to see an specialist next week, but as a good TMS who overcome other symptoms like back pain in the past... I was wondering if these might be TMS symptoms as well.

    Has anyone had a similar experience?

    Thanks a tone in advance!
  2. Ellen

    Ellen Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi Sienna,

    I had similar experiences and was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome in the past, along with fibromyalgia and chronic migraine, and a few other things. I believe now that all are TMS equivalents, as I have gotten rid of the fibromyalgia and chronic migraine using TMS healing techniques. The fatigue is taking a little longer. Before I learned about TMS I had received similar treatment to what you describe above for the fatigue. I took iron, thyroid medication, and even Provigil (a stimulant) for awhile because I felt I couldn't work without it. None of it helped, or the side effects were unpleasant. My fatigue has improved since working on it as TMS, but isn't completely gone yet. Dr. Schubiner writes about fatigue as a Mindbody Syndrome and has had success in treating people with it. He states in his book Unlearn Your Anxiety and Depression that fatigue is a result of the mindbody going into the "freeze" and "submit" response, rather than the "fight" or "flight" response associated with pain and anxiety. I've also read others state that long term repression of emotions can be exhausting, and this is what causes the fatigue. I do think in my case it is also related to poor quality sleep. But it is always important to rule out all structural causes, and it is good that you are seeing a specialist to do this. Keep us posted on how you're doing.

    Wishing you the best....
  3. Sienna

    Sienna Well known member

    Dear Ellen,

    Thank you so much for your kind answer.
    I will wait for the specialist to rule out the organical cause and see if I have to "do my homework" again.
    It is very interested what you mention about Dr. Schubiner interpreting fatigue as a "freeze and submit" response.
    It is funny the way this all started the moment I felt completely cured of my back pain and fear of physical activity.
    By springtime I was exercising 5 days a week and feeling awesome and then I had to stop for what it started as "anemia" due to low iron levels. But now my iron is restored.
    I have read about hipothyroidsm and I have all the symptoms: physical and mental fatigue, cold feet and intolerance to cold, dry skin...
    So I will wait to visit the specialist and will keep you posted.

  4. Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021)

    Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021) Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi, Sienna.
    You're doing the right thing, checking out your symptoms with a specialist.
    Since you felt cured of back pain and your fear of physical activity, the low iron level pulled you down,
    but I would go along with Dr. Schubiner that your physical and mental fatigue is from TMS.
    Those awful repressed emotions and/or a perfectionist-goodist personality.
    No matter what the specialist says, I would work on the TMS.

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