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Dealing with husband dying of liver cancer

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  1. plumeria45

    plumeria45 New Member

    I was 90% pain free applying TMS to my life felling pretty good
    then when my husband was given news he had inoperable liver cancer and Is terminal
    all my pain started up again
    I know it is emotional
    I know I have to deal with these emotions
    I know facing my husbands death will help with my pain issues
    I feel like I am accepting my brain and body can't handle this realty
    It is like I know my brain is protecting me by distracting me with pain but I feel I can't face all my emotions at one time or I will crack up and my husband needs me
    It is so odd to know why I am in pain again but I seem to not want to push myself just let my body slowing accept truth
    Has anyone else been in my place ? Any advice to help me down this hard journey
    Thanks Plumeria45
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  2. Ellen

    Ellen Beloved Grand Eagle

    I am so sorry to hear about your husband's illness. I haven't been through anything like this, so I can only imagine how difficult it must be. It sounds to me that you are doing the right things. Let yourself feel your feelings, but not become completely overwhelmed by them. Be very kind and easy on yourself as you go through this. Hopefully you have some good friends and family for support. A good therapist might be helpful. Hopefully, someone with experience with this will have more advice for you.

    Wishing you the best. Keep us informed on how you're doing.
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  3. Tennis Tom

    Tennis Tom Beloved Grand Eagle

    Dr. Sarno mentions cancer in all his books as having TMS manifestations. Don't believe everything docs and white-coats tell you--I've played tennis with too many of them to believe all their calls. My mother had kidney cancer but died of the unforeseen and little mentioned by her oncologists of a major complication to from the surgery that they said would be the "only way to return her to living a normal life". In retrospect I would bet on her strong will to survive, she lasted nine months in their ICU after the botched surgery, a record for them at that time--but you don't weigh the complications usually until they've happened and it may be too late.

    Look into the complementary cancer alternatives to give you some hope, miracles do happen. Dr. Bernie Siegel is the best know complementary cancer doctor and there's a good book titled something like the "50 or 100 things to do when they tell you it's cancer", it will give you hope and bring your husband back into the equation so his body's immune system can fight back. I'll dig it out for the exact title later--good stuff!
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  4. FredAmir

    FredAmir Well known member

    So sorry to hear this. Tom is right, Do not beleive everything docs tell you. Afetr all theys till tell us spinal abnormailites cause back apin!

    Take a look at this website by Chris who beat colon cancer http://www.chrisbeatcancer.com (Chris Beat Cancer - A resource for healing cancer with nutrition and natural therapies by chemo-free survivor Chris Wark). Email him for options with liver cancer.

    You may even cosnider something as simple of fasting. Less food and drink give liver a rest to repair and regenerate.

    From the National Cancer Institute:
    "Cancer in animals appears less resilient and chemotherapy drugs work better when combined with cycles of short, severe fasting, shows a University of Southern California study. Even fasting on its own effectively treated a majority of cancers tested in animals, including cancers from human cells. The study in Science Translational Medicine, part of the Science family of journals, found that five out of eight cancer types in mice responded to fasting alone: Just as with chemotherapy, fasting slowed the growth and spread of tumors."


    Watch Valter Longo, PhD, of the University of Southern California discuss how fasting cycles retard the growth of tumors:

    The late Dr, Nicholas Gonzales had done amazing work with cancer patients through diets and supplements. His last book published this year is Nutrition and the Autonomic Nervous System: The Scientific Foundations of the Gonzalez Protocol.

    There are other resources listed below. Look for google or yahoo groups for liver cancer and see what others have tried.

    1. Angiogenesis therapy. Watch this talk on TED:

    2. A medical center directed by Robert Gorter, MD, PhD, in Cologne, Germany, with a branch in Cairo works with stage 4 cancer patients and has had good success. They use fever and immune therapy to activate the immune system to fight cancer. Cancer cells do not like heat. Fever makes them die while it increases immune cell activity.
      http://medical-center-cologne.com (こちら、お肌のトラブル対応センター)

      Dr. Gorter gained valuable insight into activating the immune system after working for many years with AIDS patients in San Francisco.


      Also, most cancers thrive on carbohydrates. If you can avoid all sugars, sweets, grains, and starchy vegetables, that can really help. At a minimum, cut sugar (including the sugar found in fruits) out of your diet until you are well.
    3. Here's a good site in general on cancer treatments:
    4. Nancy's List provides many useful resources and support:
    5. Here's another good book: Never Fear Cancer Again. I do not agree with its premise of a low-salt, nondairy, vegetarian diet. (Please see my article. "Disease-Preventing Diet," on this page.)But it does take a comprehensive look at how you can avoid cancer.
      http://www.amazon.com/Never-Fear-Cancer-Again-Prevent/dp/075731550X/ (Never Fear Cancer Again: How to Prevent and Reverse Cancer (Never Be): Raymond Francis M.Sc.: 9780757315503: Amazon.com: Books)
    6. Nicholas J. Gonzalez, MD, has done some amazing work using diet, enzymes, and detoxification.
      http://www.dr-gonzalez.com (The Nicholas Gonzalez Foundation)
    7. Check out the work of Stanislaw R. Burzynski, MD, PhD, internationally recognized physician and biochemist-researcher. Since 1967, he has pioneered the development and use of biologically active peptides in diagnosing, preventing, and treating cancer.
    As you take care of him make sure you also take care of yourself physically and emotionally.

    I will be praying for you both.

    Keep us posted.
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  5. FredAmir

    FredAmir Well known member

    One more thing: Cancer like back pain is a symptom of an imbalance. It could be an imbalance in his diet, too many environmental toxins, too much tension, and so on.

    Look for ways to improve the diet with the first step being eliminating sugar and starches, which have been shown to feed cancer cells. see my blog post of diet. Cancer was rare among native people.

    http://www.fredamir.com/single-post/2016/12/29/Disease-Preventing-Diet (Back Pain)

    As much as possible reduce environmental toxins that may enter his body through water, food, and air.

    Emotionally focus on a bright future: exciting places to and things to do. Read book by cancer survivors like Radical Remission by Dr. Kelly Turner. Here is her interview with Chris

    Take care,
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  6. Tennis Tom

    Tennis Tom Beloved Grand Eagle

    I remember when AIDS was considered a death sentence--then they found it wasn't necessarily so, and people quit dying of AIDS--the power of suggestion.

    There was an anecdote here by someone, I don't remember who, maybe Balto, about a Chinese family who's patriarch got the cancer dx from the doctor. According to their custom, the family members received the dx and the father was not present to hear it. He was given a year to live. Family members decided not tell the father so he could live out his life in peace. He lived many years afterwards, dying a natural death not due to cancer.
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  7. Tennis Tom

    Tennis Tom Beloved Grand Eagle

    The name of the book I referred to earlier is : "CANCER : 50 Essential Things to Do"
    by Greg Anderson.

    On it's cover is an endorsement by Bernie S. Siegel, M.D. : "Expert instruction and loving encouragement --the wisdom of someone who has made the journey from near death to a healed life."

    I opened it randomly and the first passage I came across was page 23 :

    " Rule 1: There is always hope.
    Rule 2: If someone says there is no hope, re-read rule 1.

    "Believe it. There is always hope. Let that sink deep into your mind and spirit. Hope is the force that sets your course. Follow the rules. Set your compass on hope. Keep your mind filled with victory! It is one of the great sources of health and healing."

    Last edited: Jun 11, 2017
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    balto Beloved Grand Eagle

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    MindBodyPT Beloved Grand Eagle

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  10. FredAmir

    FredAmir Well known member

    Loved the article.

  11. Bodhigirl

    Bodhigirl Well known member

    Wow, lots of cancer experts - opinions - here it seems.

    Plumeria, I understand you signed on to talk about your symptoms, didn't you? Your emotional pain over your husband's diagnosis.

    Seems whenever cancer comes up, everyone feels the need to advise. I just got the feeling you could use some empathy and care.

    I hope you hear me. I heard you. Be gentle. I had a similar situation with grief and symptoms. Keeping my body moving, not stopping exercise for fear of injury helped. Crying a lot helps. Expressing rage at possible loss helps too. In meditation my higher self said, "Let death have its process, let it work as it will... watch the mystery."

    We are here for you. And listening.
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  12. plumeria45

    plumeria45 New Member

    Thank you all so many kind words it helps so much ....I do have so much support and love from family and friends
    we have done lots of research watching
    the truth about cancer helped my husband decided against chemo
    The dr say it would only add around 6 extra weeks so he decided to

    1-Have microwave liver ablation

    2-we went to Mexico to Hoxey clinic to strengthen his immune system and liver detoxing regime

    He is a very strong person and Is putting up a good fight he is the bravest man I know , so I have not given up hope ......but sometimes I have to face the reality that he might not be here for very long and not wanting to face that is causing my pain to come back and it is strange because I know what my brain is doing ..how it trying to protect me
  13. FredAmir

    FredAmir Well known member

    Last year in a period one month my mom end up in hospital and my mother-in-law had a stroke.

    One Saturday morning (TMS often strikes on weekends) I woke up with neck pain and I knew it was due to all the tension.

    Logically you know what is causing your pain but emotionally it is too scary. And rightly so.

    Try to give yourself some physical and mental breaks and take care of yourself so that you have the energy to take care of him.
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