I went to see dr. sarno in nyc in maybe 1997, i was in my 20s and in a lot of pain and I thought it would never go away. my pain was in my upper back. anyway, i went to see him and it did go away. Now i am in my 40s and my lower back has hurt for so long. i feel instictually that it is tms but i am also afraid that i have something wrong, because I tried for so long to tell myself it was just in my mind and it didn't work. so now i am back and trying to accept it's all in my mind. I feel extremely angry and hopeless. that said, my back pain this week moved all over my back , and i know this is a very TMS thing to have happen.