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Day 13 the most helpful resource so far

Discussion in 'Structured Educational Program' started by DebraW, Feb 17, 2015.

  1. DebraW

    DebraW Peer Supporter

    I think the most profound and helpful item for me was the report that John Stossel did on 20/20. I watched it many times over. It was amazing how his years of back pain went away after he saw Dr Sarno. It was so interesting because he showed real people and they talked about their before and afters. I could really relate to what they were saying, as I also have spent time and money on many doctors, chiropractors, and specialists, etc. to no avail. If they could be cured why not me? Even celebrities like Howard Stern were saying how Dr. sarno saved their lives. Also I love John Stossel as a reporter. He does his job so well; he's down to earth and seems like a really nice guy.
    On the negative side, and maybe I shouldn't even go there, but I need to get my feelings out, correct? I wish I could go to one of Dr Sarno's lectures that he makes all his patients attend because that's what seems to cure them. I've read all of his books and I still have my pain so I figure I must be doing something wrong. I guess part of my brain still hasn't accepted TMS.
    The story was pretty incredible just the same.
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  2. Ellen

    Ellen Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi Debra,

    There is a DVD of Dr. Sarno's lectures that you can purchase. It's kind of expensive, and the audience is made up of actors who ask questions that are scripted, which kind of ruins it for me. The audio version of Healing Back Pain is great, as Sarno reads it himself. I've listened to it many, many times. It is comforting.

    But you can watch Dr. Schubiner's lectures for free online:

    http://www.unlearnyourpain.com/index.php?Online Video Lecture

    But be patient. Don't give up. It takes most of us a while to heal. It is important to drop having a timeline, and focus on the process of self-discovery and change. It's the journey of a lifetime, and well worth every step.
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  3. DebraW

    DebraW Peer Supporter

    Hi Ellen
    Thanks for responding. Maybe I'll try the audio version as you suggested. I guess I'm impatient to feel better. You read of lots of people having an instant cure after reading one of dr Sarno's books. I feel disappointed in myself. I'll try not to give up. For sure it would be worth it in the end. I'll try Dr schubiner too. I'm a classic TMS personality Lol in every way I see myself on every page of Dr Sarno's books.
  4. Ellen

    Ellen Beloved Grand Eagle


    Everyone heals in their own time and in their own way. Part of the healing process is recognizing this, and honoring your individual journey. Healing begins when you can accept yourself as you are right now--pain and personality traits, and all the good stuff too. Let go of comparing yourself to others. They have not walked your path in life.
  5. DebraW

    DebraW Peer Supporter

    Very wise words. You are so correct and thank you.
  6. Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021)

    Walt Oleksy (RIP 2021) Beloved Grand Eagle

    Everyone with TMS pain seems to agree with the doctors... it takes 100 percent belief that our pain
    is caused by TMS... repressed emotions and/or a perfectionist-goodist personality.

    That's the hard part. I still think I'm holding back about 10 percent that it's structural.

    I think some people also don't heal 100 percent is because they haven't yet been able to resolve
    the emotional cause of their pain. A bad relationship or job or financial stress may not be resolved or
    lived with adequately, so some of that TMS emotion remains.

    Dr. Sarno writes that we don't have to resolve a problem in order to be healed by TMS.
    I do think it helps a lot if we can think our way to at least coming close.
  7. DebraW

    DebraW Peer Supporter

    It's funny, my list of past events from childhood is up to about 30 items long as I think of more stuff and add it. Got lots of old bad events and memories to resolve. It may take a while! My personality is 110% people pleaser! But we can really change our personality. I've decided to try to focus more, think positively and keep going forward. It's a challenge to say the least! Do I have the strength to do this?
  8. Barb M.

    Barb M. Peer Supporter

    Ellen, thank you so much for posting the link to Dr. Scrubiner's video. I just watched it and it is excellent! I think you may have commented on some of my posts before – my husband is a psychologist (I am too)and he has never really liked Dr. Sarno's approach with the repressed rage, etc. Dr. Shubiner presents in such a way that sounds more "scientific" and I think he will understand more of what I'm trying to do on this journey.
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  9. Boston Redsox

    Boston Redsox Well Known Member


    what you said is a home run…it should be a tms tshirt for all of us…Thx
  10. DebraW

    DebraW Peer Supporter

    Agreed! It's inspirational.
  11. Ellen

    Ellen Beloved Grand Eagle

    I am a big fan of Dr. Schubiner. I highly recommend his books (Unlearn Your Pain and Unlearn Your Anxiety and Depression). They are written so clearly and with a very compassionate tone, yet well-based in science. The perfect balance. He also has a blog on Psychology Today that you and your husband might find interesting.


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