Could TMS cause OCD?

[stevow7]

question. if its ocd and not pain how do you treat it as tms? with pain we tend to ignore it. but with ocd we accept and ignore?

 

[Kjarvis15]

Baseball65 sounds like you are saying that you had to leave your marriage and change your career for the pain to go away?

 

[tag24]

First of all, I have compassion for you and don't worry... IT DOES Go away!!!!!
Your OCD episode has probably replaced your pain as your distraction. That means that there is something in your unconscious that is still kicking against the pricks. Family issues? The Holidays? New Job? Kids? Been ruminating on mortality and life? Relationship? Lack of relationship?

The Dr. I saw who helped me explained OCD from a Physical standpoint. He said that PET scans have shown that when someone who has OCD is involved in an 'episode' there is an 'electrical storm' going on in a part of the brain where ordinarily only 'the lights' should be on. There are two ways to stop the storm. One, is SSRI's (prozac or one of it's cousins) . The second way is called 'Stop' therapy. I chose that way and it was very effective HOWEVER My ocd wasn't that bad at the time of our interaction (I was there for anger issues)

"Stop' Therapy is nigh identical to the same sort of de-conditioning we do to get rid of TMS. I was told that whenever I caught myself in a ritual or having the intrusive repetitive thought to say "STOP" Out Loud and immediately go to a different task. That meant if I was say Painting and I find my mind occupied about something; 'STOP!' Immediately go to the sink and start doing dishes. 15 minutes later I notice I am going through a ritual; 'STOP', go read a book. I am reading the book and the Thought comes back ;'STOP' and go take the dog for a walk.

This is like taking a 16D Nail and SCRATCHING the record so it can't play anymore. It also made me really be able to distinguish between normal concerns and the self-immolation that is OCD. I scratched the record BEFORE it could get to the 'skip' that makes it repeat!

It wasn't easy .... but it was a lot better than the same ol' same ol' of the carousel of OCD. And it worked quickly, and I still ocassionally use it if I find myself drifting into morbid reflection or any sort of negative mind frame, not necessarily OCD

Now... that aside, there is Nothing wrong with taking meds. We all have different biologies and circumstances. BUT!!! I notice in this whole string you haven't once mentioned what is going on in your life that could be TRIGGERING and NECESSITATING a symptom. No therapy or drug can create awareness. They only deal with the symptoms. Sarno occasionally prescribed painkillers but he himself said, he didn't treat pain; His methods and teaching are to prevent it from happening by making it unnecessary

Just like I needed my pain to keep me from the truth about my very bad marriage and Career choices, I needed the OCD to keep me from the horrific Loneliness and terror of being a virtual orphan(Dad died, Mom left). The Doctor I worked with helped me look at that. Once I looked at it, it didn't have any power anymore. . and the symptoms went away. They will for you too

Old post to resurrect, but just wanted to say thank you for the STOP therapy idea and I'm definitely going to try it out. I've done the STOP part before myself but never the task-switching with it. Could be useful to help pay less attention to benign sensations!

 

[TrustIt]

wow just wow. thanks so much for decribing your situation. well im actually going to try your method and my therapist method. she once said "what are your current stressors" well my grandmother who i live with is one stressor because she thinks everything i do is childish (ocd) and she just doesn't understand. another stressor is fitness and nutrition. i have a very picky and established diet and fitness (trying to atleast go 3 days a week) and the third one or maybe the biggest stressor actually is like i mentioned here before. i have a pituitary tumor and i also have low hormones level Low testosterone (like clinically extremely low), low LH, LOW FSH, high SHBG, low estradiol, low IGF-1, low DHEA-S and the list goes on. it bothers me that i have dry hands, cracked hands because maybe my thyroid is not working properly (low t3) or because of my estradiol is low (5) which causes symptoms like this, i have to get a jacket always to go out because im always cold. im contantly going to the bathroom because i need to urinate literally every 30 minutes, and well the other symptoms you guys know and no need to mention them. the thing is, i keep jumping from doc to doc to find the solution and i still dont have a real diagnose. im 26 and they all just say TRT, testosterone injection and why would i do that if i don't know the cause? pituitary tumor? my acth my prolactin and my igf-1 are not that skyhigh so its not secreting anything (acth is a bit high but this might be due to stress) im depressed and contantly stressed because i can't find a solution to my problem and can't find doctors here in puerto rico. i dont know if this was a mistake, but i did my research (a lot) on trt and well i kinda don't accept bad protocols, because doctors atleast ive seen just prescribe trt with protocols that are just weird and from what i study it will be worst.

other thing are meds. studies have shown that ssris makes hormones worst. and this makes me think twice about meds.

as you can see, the internet is another stressor.

the main reason i didn't typed my stressors its because if i mention the hormone parts people around here might see me "weirdly" and i want to have a good relationship with you guys

From your specifics about blood levels, diet, workouts, in your comments, the perfectionist screams at me. I say this because I, too, do this. Since I don't trust conventional doctors, I learned what all the levels mean and translate my labwork myself. Trouble with that is that it easily turns into obession and control...oops OCD. I am reading O'zanich's TGPD again and recognizing the relentless conflict I have going on inside my head, trying to figure out what's wrong. I have been looking for the fix "out there"...a practitioner, a supplement, a food, etc. I do like the STOP method as it changes my external direction of thought to internal. It doesn't take matter to fix matter. Question is, where is your energy going, because the brain takes an enormous amount of energy to handle stress of any kind, including strictly self induced. Working on this myself and considerably better lately.
Btw, Steve's The Wall of Victory on Youtube is very inspiring!