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Chest pain and palpitations

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by CarlPanzram, May 18, 2021.

  1. CarlPanzram

    CarlPanzram New Member

    Hi folks. Here's a fun one. What's everyone's thoughts on chest pain/tightness, shortness of breath, and heart palpitations? I had my heart looked at 9+ months ago (echo, ECG, treadmill) and everything was fine but NOW I'm getting potentially concerning cardiac problems. Can anyone relate to the following story?

    Wake up in the middle of the night with mild chest squeezing and shortness of breath sensations. Take a deep breath or 3 and everything is back to normal. Still feel a little adrenaline dump in the chest.

    Has anyone found their freaky heart stuff to be TMS? I've been working through my MindBody practices well over a month now and think this might be symptom substitution but I'm TERRIFIED.

  2. banjoman

    banjoman Peer Supporter

    I had this in December, ended up in the Emergency Room on New Year’s Day!! Everything checked out normal as I knew it would, but it’s scary as hell. For me, it’s 100% TMS. And a new symptom of course, because TMS is incredible adaptable and once I’ve debunked a symptom it moves on to something new and exciting!!
    Covid was the fear system that got under my skin, because if you’ve shortness of breath for the last year it “could be” Covid. That’s terrifying right? Even though I had no possible vector for picking it up. I’ve had 3 Covid tests because of TMS symptoms.
    Fear, fear, fear. It’s all fear. TMS lives, thrives on fear.
    I had a consult with Steve Ozanich at this time. Ti reaffirm that it’s TMS, that “asthma” symptoms are TMS, chest tightness, heart palpitations etc etc
    It’s the obsession with the new symptom that drives it onwards.
    I could put on a movie and sink into the story and my chest tightness would release. That’s the definition of TENSION!!

    I had to go back to the basics again. Lots of TMS podcast/video/book listening, switching off the news and looking at the stress in my life. Trying once again to get to the place of self compassion that will release it.
    Tears are great and the hardest thing for me to do. The fear and obsessive thinking drive the symptoms

    I’ve had every test done for heart and lungs. I’m healthy as a trout. I had to do all of that so I could accept the TMS diagnosis and focus on the emotional reasons for the symptoms - basically I’m terrified of dying from Covid. Because that represents the ultimate abandonment- being in hospital on my own and dying with no one to mind me or look after me.
    For me it’s always down to abandonment and rejection.

    Have the tests done and then relax and know that you’re ok.
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  3. CarlPanzram

    CarlPanzram New Member

    Thanks so much. This reply is so damn reassuring. I've never had a symptom so freaky and so much like a "real" issue.
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  4. banjoman

    banjoman Peer Supporter

    Yeah I had the same thought with this. It was brand new and literally thumping in my chest!! Totally TMS and totally benign.

    for what it’s worth I had the tight chested feeling this morning after an intense row at home - because my deep fear of abandonment and rejection was triggered. I recognised this, talked to a friend about it and the issue resolved itself again. The adult is back in charge. At least for now
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  5. CarlPanzram

    CarlPanzram New Member

    Is it even worth it to go get tested now that I'm feeling normal the morning after? Or wait again til it happens?
  6. banjoman

    banjoman Peer Supporter

    It’s always worth getting medical clearance just in case. I did and then I could relax as focus on the TMS work
  7. FredAmir

    FredAmir Well known member

    Same thing happened to me right after my wife's health crisis. We called 9-1-1. Paramedics called it anxiety attack. Went to the ER anyway. Everything checked out Ok.

    When this happens follow Dr. Kelly McGonigal's advice: your body is preparing you for handling greater things. So embrace it as a good thing.

    So any time I wake up during stressful times with heart palpitations I welcome it with a smile and it goes away.

    She explains more in her book The Upside of Stress and in this TED talk.
    Kelly McGonigal: How to make stress your friend | TED Talk

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  8. Balsa11

    Balsa11 Well known member

    I'd get this after taking melatonin at night. Palps + feeling a little too drowsy felt weird, turned out my body made sleep hormones just fine. Belly breathing works for me. It lowers your heart rate especially on the exhale.
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  9. Balsa11

    Balsa11 Well known member

    This was me last year with the fear of getting COVID and going through a nightmare of medication withdrawal/mild Covid I potentially got around the same time. Thankfully I was too scared to go the ER after reading so many stories of people going there due to panic attacks (didn't want to potentially get exposed, see people having emergencies etc.), and it happened too often for it to be a heart attack etc though it screwed up my sleep. I had so many tests done with good results and I got a bid mad at myself, but my body improved after getting the symptom imperative following some acupuncture, and now I'm left with a little burnout, the occasional sharp sensation, a little thinner skin, a tiny bit more hypermobility, and the all familiar anxiety thoughts. I consider myself recovered but must take better care of myself physically and in general.
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  10. TG957

    TG957 Beloved Grand Eagle

    About 15 years ago, I was going through a very stressful period in my life. I was repeatedly experiencing chest pain, heart palpitations, shortness of breath and nausea. At some point I ended up in ER suspecting a heart attack. They checked me out and then put me on the treadmill. As they kept ramping up the speed of treadmill, I started walking faster and faster, and subsequently feeling better and better. The doctor who was observing me concluded that he would have been happy to do as well on the treadmill as I did. My "heart attack" was just anxiety. Took me another 9 years and a major bout of TMS before I finally learned that I needed to deal with my anxiety in order to stay healthy, thanks to Dr. Sarno. Now I am a big believer in mindfulness and meditation -the only ultimate solution for anxiety.

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