I sooo Happy and hopeful that I've finally stumbled on the answer!!! Thank you king of all media! I haven't listened to Howard in a year, but as I lay on my floor, night before last, crying in pain, I remembered the name of the man who cured stern of pack pain and OCD. Three youtube videos later I was in my back yard doing dork karate at 2 am, joyful as a clam!! I bought 2 Sarno audio books on Amazon, I found this site(FREE!!!) and I know now life will be good again. Although I did experience low back relief immediately that first night, It hasn't worked so fast on my shoulder(torn labrum) and my back still wants to make pain(stubborn). I know I have work to do, and I'm fixin to do it!! I'm very encouraged to say the least. I'm hopefull this site will be what I need. Does anyone have any suggestions?