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Anger or guilt

Discussion in 'Support Subforum' started by JacketSpud, Nov 9, 2015.

  1. JacketSpud

    JacketSpud Peer Supporter

    in the course of journaling I have found I have repressed a lot more guilt than anger. There is a lot of anger, but definitely more guilt. Much much more. Now reading my thoughts logically I have very little to feel guilty about but it seems in some cases I have held on to feeings of guilt for in some cases 25 years (I am 38). Am I just not digging deep enough? Are misplaced feeings of guilt causing my TMS?
  2. Ryan

    Ryan Well known member

    I like the name jacketspud, you are finding new things about yourself. Its good to recognize these things and to have a awareness. Try not to over think the process or wonder if your going deep enough. That pressure you put on yourself comes from a place of fear, which in turn causes more anger. Guilt causes people to in turn have repressed anger, they don't like who they are because of what they have done. The ego is scared to be hurt because we are taught to run away from these feelings instead of embracing them. Anger can be a catch all emotion, but don't look into the details to much. Forgiveness and love are important in this process.

    Best advice I can give is look at how you react to life. It takes time to piece together your puzzle. You will ultimately heal yourself and others will help a long the way. As Carl Jung says, nothing inhibits feeling like thinking. As a tmser you want to think through and analyze things, which in turn bypasses the emotions.

    Let loose and have some fun, life is about perception. Its not all a bed of roses but you will learn new things every day. Keep at it and you will make it. A lot of people don't know, but there time to heal is right around the corner. Laugh and go free yourself, we are what we believe.

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  3. JacketSpud

    JacketSpud Peer Supporter

    Ryan, thank you for your thoughtful advice. I think I must have repressed anger, mainly because the guilt I feel logically is not my fault. I mean, I'm not responsible for every little thing that happens to everyone, and I certainly wasn't when I was 7 and 13! I'm concerned that if I have rage and I can't "get at it" and feel it, it will make it harder to heal completely - or maybe just knowing the guilt represents a level of anger is enough? Hmmm. On the healing side I think I'm already doing great. I am just over three weeks into the SEP and my pain is moving around a lot. I almost ended up in the ER last night for chest pains. We set out at the onset of pain so we could be at the ER if it turned for the worse. By the time I got there I had remembered that I have been to the doctor / ER at around this time of the year for four consecutive years. Now, I don't advocate not going to the ER for chest pains but four years in a row at the same time of year for pains that have never shown to be caused by anything seems a bit much. I've had tests and my heart always looks great. So we sat there in the car park for about half an hour and I started to feel better. I got thinking about the chest pains and why I get them at this time of the year every year. I couldn't think of anything from four years ago but 9 years ago I married my husband AND (and I can't remember if this was the same year of the following year but it was also around November) my estranged dad died. I hadn't seen him in approx 17 years (since I was 13) and I'd already worked through a lot of emotions surrounding our relationship previously in my life. Anyway, I'm unsure what he died of but I believe it was either an asthma attack or a heart attack (I'm estranged from the entire side of the family and so it's hard to find out any real information). Anyway, I'm thinking that is at least partially to do with the chest pains I'm having. I journaled for a while but found only pity for my father (which is strange given the awful relationship we had - he was physically and emotionally abusive, and as a child, about age 7 I saw him beat my mother on many occasions (that's where some of the misplaced guilt comes in) but I truly believe I worked through my feelings regarding this previously in my life). Still, the chest pains have subsided for the time being.

    Anyway, so long as the pain is jumping around I feel that I'm doing well (I also had back pain for three days last week then face/jaw/dental pain for a couple nights this week too). My head pain (initial major TMS symptom) went away during a massage two weeks ago. Massage always temporarily eliminates my head pain but this time it didn't do such an instant job and so I journaled about some stress I had at the time my pain started (buying a new house) and the residual pain that was remaining post massage went away. The pain always comes back after a week and a half and I always have massages every two weeks. However, I no longer have access to my massage therapist having just moved to a new state. So, after a week and a half the pain started to come back - mostly the throbbing pain that is impossible to ignore - and I said to my hubby "how is it possible that it always comes back after a week and a half - I get that massage helps with blood flow but it's not like a massage can produce exactly 1.5 weeks of excellent blood flow to the muscles each time. Only my brain knows the day". That really seemed to help. There was no throbbing the next day - well, I mean I get a bit here or there but it's easy to ignore it and I generally pay it no mind at all. Or tell it to bigger off because I'm on to it!!! Of course, it's only been two weeks and I've had breaks like this before between pain so it's hard not to fear that this is only a temporary break, but I'm just tryin to get on with my life and act as a person without pain.

    If anyone read all this, thank you. I am so glad to have this board right now. And my husband who is being so wonderfully supportive.
  4. Andy Bayliss

    Andy Bayliss TMS Coach & Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi JacketSpud,

    Yes, as Ryan says, just engaging in inquiry about your inner life is the main practice, rather than needing to "root out" the exact cause. I think it is mostly about "opening the door to more feeling" that sends a message to the deeper layers that it is "OK to feel."

    Specifically on guilt: Guilt means there is Inner Critic activity, plain and simple. Inner Critic activity hurts, saddens, enrages the Inner Child. Inner Critic activity mainly distracts us from deep feeling, and makes us wrong for deep feelings like anger and sadness. So your guilt is an important thing to gently inquire into. Can you here the specific Inner Critic attacks like: I would recommend really inquiring into messages from the Inner Critic/Inner Bully, and how these messages might affect your Inner Child. Then you have more evidence about the inner war going on, which confirms Dr. Sarno's thesis.

    Good Luck,

    Andy B.

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