Recent content by bagofwater

Well, this is a confusing little thread. We have a beloved grand eagle telling us that gout is TMS, and a well-known member (a TMS author no less!) saying it's a dietary issue. I am a veteran Alan Gordon/TMSer that only occasionally has flareups anymore - the most current one toe and heal pain...

I have an 82 year old friend that has been recommended major surgery, by a back-surgeon. I gave this friend Dr. Sarno's Healing Back Pain a few years ago, but I don't think he read it. As a Sarno/now A Gordon veteran everything this friend tells me about his condition says to me that it's a...

I'd bet everyone who pays PCC gets help. They just didn't need to pay. ...or did they? A concise paid plan from a legitimate looking website might help some folks access Dr. Sarno's approach. I agree it's uncool that PCC appears to take ownership of this approach ("Sarno 3.0" indeed), but TMS is...

I've fully embraced Gordon's The Way Out as a resource for some interesting new ideas. He's charting a bit of a new path - nary a mention of Dr. Sarno in the book.

I said SEP wasn't a good "fit" Cactusflower, not fix. I'm an old hand with TMS, but a sincere thanks for all this, @JanAtheCPA. All these names are familiar. I've read most of their books, plus a few others - seen two different PPC therapists, done Schubiner's workbook. What I'm looking for now...

Re PCC spamming. Was this ever cleared up? There's quite a bit about their program/website that looks appealing to me. Apart from their, possible, dubious postings I'm seeing nothing but positive reports… granted many of those are from their own sources, but its been 6 years and they seem to get...

Any further thoughts on PCC? This is the second post I've seen, also from back in 2017, that questions their validity. Have they proven themselves since then?

It's been a couple years Hip Guy. How's the hip these days? I'm a TMS veteran who has been mostly pain free for a decade or so, but I'm now contending with a hip, butt pain flare up that's pretty bad. I haven't had an MD rule out structural issues yet - but as you found out the hard way...

Accepting that the basis of my pain isn't structural was the easy part for me. I suspected this even before I stumbled on Healing Back Pain. So for me the 'distraction' concepts were the revelations in that book. As I pointed out before, people will read different things into the same...

I like it. In other words, for some people Dr. Sarno's method only goes so far, at which point Dr. Gordon's methods could takeover. In that sense the two approaches would dovetail, rather than split off. Food for thought, BloodMoon. Thx. Well, Dr. Sarno includes fear as a component of TMS as...

That's a lota insight! So, The Way Out would be your recommendation then. At this point I'm starting to agree with you. Over the years I've sent or recommended Healing Back Pain to about a dozen people - including total strangers I overheard complaining about back pain. As far as I know it...

Thank you all for taking the time to write these thoughtful responses! It's appreciated. Duggit, Quite a bit of what you wrote makes sense to me. One more question: What book would you now recommend to someone suffering from chronic back pain? ...say, to a stranger whom you've been chatting...

Some good thoughts here on this 'conflict'. Thank you - especially the point by Cactusflower about me getting out of my head. The only time I ever post on this forum may be when I'm indulging in that behavior! Regardless, I'm still looking for some kind of way to bring these approaches together...

Bumping this. Alan Gordon's The Way Out is really muddying the water for me. In the first chapter Gordon mentions that his mother gave him a book that set him on his path to being a pain therapist, but doesn't mention the name of the book (Healing Back Pain presumably). The book goes on to...