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Tough Girl speaks up!

Discussion in 'General Discussion Subforum' started by Diana-M, Jun 12, 2025 at 10:33 PM.

  1. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    Been having a lot of rough nights lately. Symptoms acting up while I’m trying to sleep. I figure my subconscious is on overdrive.

    Woke up this morning with really painful feelings, but I didn’t know why. I tried to remember my dreams, but couldn’t. Then, the memories came. They were from my divorce, years ago. That’s probably what my brain was working on all night. Trying to bring this to the surface.

    So, I journaled. And instead of regular writing, I decided to have a written conversation with the person I was during that time. Let’s call her Tough Girl. I asked her questions about how she was feeling—what she’s mad about.

    She told me that she was the one who got me through the divorce, being a broke single mother with three little boys— harassed by an abusive -ex. She showed me the memories of her toughness. It all came back.

    Turns out, Tough Girl is mad that she did all that work back then; she helped me survive, protected me, and now I never let her out of her “cage.”

    As I talked with her, I remembered what it was like to be her. I wasn’t afraid. I was always ready to fight. I didn’t settle for “No.” I made things happen. I got knocked down and got right back up.

    I wondered what the cage is that she doesn’t like.

    Then, I thought of this. Some years ago I started going to church. I had a spiritual revival, of sorts. I became meek and mild. I began to think that being a Tough Girl is a bad thing, so I stopped being her.

    Today I put two and two together. When Tough Girl got caged, coincidentally, that’s when my symptoms came. (It’s not the only reason.)

    Another interesting thing: when I got my symptoms I stopped going to church because it’s “too hard” to get there physically. (Or is it?) Maybe my brain gave me symptoms to slow me down and force me to sort this out.

    Tough Girl does bring a lot of powerful energy to me that’s been missing in my life. Is there a way I can uncage her and still have my faith? I hope so!

    As it happens, after this talk with Tough Girl today—my symptoms have been way down.

    Interesting, isn’t it? Sarno said to find what you’re mad about. Sometimes it’s not what you think. And sometimes it takes a while.

    Anybody have a take on this?
     
    Last edited: Jun 12, 2025 at 10:44 PM
  2. Cactusflower

    Cactusflower Beloved Grand Eagle

    Women in many Churches, just like other places in society often have pretty strict expectations either placed on them, or they assume they must play a role. In many denominations women have subservient roles in alter guilds, kitchens etc. More of the selfless giving, pretty much doing the same things they are expected (by society and tradition) to do at home.
    What are your perceptions of the roles you play vs your inner most values of yourself?
    I left conventional church because I was not happy with being asked to fulfill roles and then criticized for it. Jealousies and pettiness. Has nothing to do with my personal faith, but the organization itself was just to messy for me.
    Is Tough Girl s part of you that you somehow thought God or others would disapprove of?
     
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  3. mikeinlondon

    mikeinlondon Peer Supporter

    Just my point of view but I think your symptoms went down because your fear went down. ToughGirl = powerful energy = less fear = less symptoms. I try to listen to Dan's videos everyday and he is so inspiring. The one key message is about managing FEAR. Whatever you can do to reduce fear that will reduce symptoms over time. It could be living your life more, prayer, hope, positivity ... or even ToughGirl. Dan's message is that one doesn't have to go back to the past to find out the cause of the issues/rage/anger. His message is simple ... provide messages of safety, consistently, to your brain that you are not in danger and that you are fine NOW i.e. today. ToughGirl did exactly that for you! If ToughGirl works for you then great but it doesn't have to be. Anything that can reduce fear will work.

    After watching Dan's videos I had an epiphany yesterday evening. I realised that a big stressor happened in my life (infection) that caused severe symptoms i.e. insomnia which then magnified the stressor and that caused severe pains when sitting. My subconscious did all that and I had no part to play in that process. Then "I", in an attempt to find a cure to the symptoms, started reading reddit and other forums. What did that do? All that did is ramped up the fear so I fed into the pain-fear cycle and the symptoms got worse. Perhaps if I didn't feed fear into the pain the pain may have gone away months ago. In essence I was feeding misinformation to my subconscious. Instead of my brain correcting me it took my fear as instruction that I'm in danger. The more fear I felt it the more danger I communicated to the limbic system and the more symptoms.

    What is the takeaway from the above story? Well, when I was born I wasn't provided with an owner's manual for the Human Brain. Now I know you communicate to it by feelings and emotions. If you generate positive feelings/emotions by thinking of powerful stuff like ToughGirl or "I am not damaged and healthy and strong" the limbic system you will feel that as emotions and send that message to the limbic system. However, here's the catch. You must truly believe in those thoughts for you to feel the emotions. In your case, I think, you truly believed in the power of ToughGirl and the energy manifested so that calmed down your limbic system and lowered your symptoms. That is TMS at it's finest.

    Anyways Diana - Off this forum today please and do something fear-less this weekend and tell us about it next week. You got this, girl!
     
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  4. BloodMoon

    BloodMoon Beloved Grand Eagle

    How about dropping 'Meek And Mild Girl' and turning 'Tough Girl' into 'Assertive Woman' or 'Kind But Assertive Woman'?

    I'm agnostic and was brought up that way, so I don't personally know how it works in the Catholic Church - but can't you just turn up to services without having to behave meekly and mildly (to include saying 'no' when asked to do things that you don't want to do)? I have an old school friend who is Catholic (her late dad was Irish Catholic so she was brought up in the faith) who attends church every Sunday, and she's one of the feistiest people I've ever known in my life (as is her Catholic older sister). Meek and mild is certainly not a description I would ever use for her (or her sister) but their Catholic faith is everything to them, which they combine with being their own person.
     
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  5. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    I really think the meek and mild thing is my own incorrect view. In fact, my own impression of most Catholics is they aren’t meek and mild! (Meek and mild is a Bible reference; something Jesus taught.)

    I also thought about “ToughGirl” after I wrote it and knew someone (Probably you!) would say I should’ve said Woman! Lol Of course!

    Religion is tricky because it is taught, but it’s also how you internalize it, mixed with your own perceptions, upbringing and emotional issues. Nothing is simple about it. I was afraid to post anything having to do with religion because it almost just invites trouble. But I so value everyone’s opinion in this group. I have made so much progress because I’ve been willing to be vulnerable and share my heart with you guys. I’ve always considered your opinions— deeply considered them— And they’ve helped me!

    Thank you so much! ❤️
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2025 at 9:48 AM
  6. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    Mike!
    You have changed so much in just a few weeks! You’re filled with optimism and information. I’m loving this! Thank you for your perspective. I really like it. You’re right there is a power inside of me that I have not been manifesting and I need to. It’s the Opposite of victimization. And that’s healing for TMS. I will be fearless this weekend! Thank you, my brother!
     
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  7. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    Hi, Cactus,
    I never felt any expectations at church that I should be submissive or anything like that. But this is the right question: Do I personally think I disapprove of me being ToughGirl? Am I afraid to be ToughGirl? Why? (I don’t think God disapproves of ToughGirl—unless I start doing evil things.)

    It’s possible that ToughGirl might kick my family’s ass! lol Seriously, not joking. We are having some problems and being meek and mild helps sweep them under the rug.

    Maybe I’m afraid of what I will do. I’m afraid of myself and the power I have. There’s a lot to think about here. I’m not quite sure what the answers are yet. I do know one thing —I hate confrontation. Anger and Christianity is a confusing mixture, sometimes.

    Thanks for letting me noodle this out with you.
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2025 at 9:51 AM
  8. BloodMoon

    BloodMoon Beloved Grand Eagle

    Tbh, I felt rather nitpicking in saying it, but, depending on the context of course, it can be disempowering so I said it anyway; however, the bigger point that I meant but failed to say is that being 'Meek and Mild' or 'Tough' is a lot of pressure to put upon oneself, particularly because they are at extreme opposite ends of the spectrum... the 'middle way' may be the path and give you the peace that you are searching for in all of this... that's why I suggested assertiveness.
    Being assertive might well still get you 'kicking your husband's ass', of course, but one's approach is more measured with assertiveness, it's driven by confidence and self respect, whereas with toughness it, not always, but often, tends to be driven more by anger and/or frustration (and as such can leave one more open to regret after acting).

    My guess is that being afraid of what you will do is probably the nub of it all... whether one is being assertive or tough, one still has to be prepared to suffer the possible consequences of one's actions, i.e. of it not working out how one would like it to work out, and perhaps wishing one had said and approached things differently etc. That's the fear.

    The question is do we have to change virtually everything that we don't like about our lives to include trying to get other people in our lives to change their ways to enable us to lose our TMS symptoms?

    Forum members will have differing views on this, of course, but Dan Buglio reckons we don't. He always says about that he recovered from TMS/perceived danger pain despite all the quite major 'lifey' things that were going on his life at the time of his recovery and that that's been the same for a lot of his clients. I live in that hope because my own life is not exactly how I would like it to be.
     
    Last edited: Jun 13, 2025 at 11:31 AM
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  9. Diana-M

    Diana-M Beloved Grand Eagle

    Well said!
     

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