In order to kill the doubt, I need to know if there's a structural reason that pain could move from lumbar spine to tailbone/glutes over a period of 4 weeks. It has morphed from a dull achy throb in low back to tingly, pin pricks in my butt. Does arthritis in facet joints EVER act this way, spreading to different area over time? It's making me want to research Piriformis Syndrome!
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Can structural pain move? Or is it always TMS?
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Rabscuttle
Beloved Grand Eagle
we aren’t medical professionals so for anyone to give you a definite answer on this is irresponsible.
that said, you’re on a TMS forum, you’re TMS aware, surely have read about symptom imperative. I don’t think anyone could give an answer that would soothe your panicky TMS brain. Funny isn’t it, how you view moving pain as a potential catastrophe rather than the symptom imperative and possible progress that your brain is forced to rethink its strategy. When you’ve lived like we have, all we can see are defeats, rather than the smallest (but still significant) of victories.
oh you can google till the end of the earth whatever syndrome the medical community wants to call a description of symptoms, but will that bring you peace of mind or aid you in your journey? Whether physical or not, panicking and googling symptoms isn’t going to lead anywhere good. Either accept the TMS diagnosis or head to a doctor for a second opinion for peace of mind.
that said, you’re on a TMS forum, you’re TMS aware, surely have read about symptom imperative. I don’t think anyone could give an answer that would soothe your panicky TMS brain. Funny isn’t it, how you view moving pain as a potential catastrophe rather than the symptom imperative and possible progress that your brain is forced to rethink its strategy. When you’ve lived like we have, all we can see are defeats, rather than the smallest (but still significant) of victories.
oh you can google till the end of the earth whatever syndrome the medical community wants to call a description of symptoms, but will that bring you peace of mind or aid you in your journey? Whether physical or not, panicking and googling symptoms isn’t going to lead anywhere good. Either accept the TMS diagnosis or head to a doctor for a second opinion for peace of mind.
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JanAtheCPA
Beloved Grand Eagle
Great answer, @Rabscuttle. 100%
Rusty Red
Well known member
Stay away from a piriformis syndrome chase. It's garbage.
Real tough love is sometimes what I need. However in this case, I'm trying to reduce the doubt (which is my job) so I'm simply wondering if anyone had any research or scientific anatomical knowledge about what is/is not possible in our bodies in order to crush the doubt. I'm not panicking as you assume, but rather trying to gather more evidence (the piriformis comment was a jokey way to end my post, but maybe reads as I'm panicking. There have been dark times when I catastrophize for sure).
Baseball65
Beloved Grand Eagle
That is one of the main characteristics of TMS...it occupies your mind, exactly the way OCD would.
Many have come to this forum with a series of symptoms. We feel alone and scared. We've been taught by the system that this is a physical/engineering problem and it's NOT.
My Pain began in my hips....mostly numbness and a deficiency in motion. It Moved to my butt and back when they told me it was a back problem. Over the next 18 months as it moved all over the place I, like everybody else on this forum, learned way more about anatomy then I ever cared to.....and the result was ending up in a chronic pain facility (dumpster)
I don't know why we get TMS, but I have strong opinions on it. I DO know after being pain free since '99 that learning about the body and paying any attention to it whatsoever , makes it worse. The Doubt is part of that fear no matter how I package it.
monica-tms
Peer Supporter
How can it be bad to learn about the body? Genuinely asking.
Rusty Red
Well known member
I think he means all the obsessive research we do to figure out what could be wrong in the body. Oh, I have herniated disc on my scan, let me Google that for hours, things like that. When we learn the minute details of the body we start to fixate on the physical sensations.
I hope that makes sense. I could be way off base.
Mr Hip Guy
Beloved Grand Eagle
That's definitely how I took it and it's all true.
When I was diagnosed with a hip labral tear and "FAI" - I spent way too much time looking at imagery of that condition and those images burned themselves into my brain, to my absolute detriment.
monica-tms
Peer Supporter
Oh yes, I completely agree, if that’s what he meant. That’s definitely only gonna fuel the fear!
Rusty Red
Well known member
I have that in both hips. Oh the amount of time I read about it.....
Mr Hip Guy
Beloved Grand Eagle
Well at least it was only time reading and not any $$. I went in with this while I was dealing with it (and after surgery):
https://www.thefaifix.com/ (The FAI Fix - The Nonsurgical Alternative Treatment to Heal Your Hips)
I have to admit, compared to what I spent on doctor visits and the surgery, the small fee for this program was really minor. And the info provided is pretty extensive. It's one of the reasons I believe PT, Chiropractors, "Active Release Therapy" (ART), etc are continually in business is that people just want to hear from an expert that "everything is going to be okay."
https://www.thefaifix.com/ (The FAI Fix - The Nonsurgical Alternative Treatment to Heal Your Hips)
I have to admit, compared to what I spent on doctor visits and the surgery, the small fee for this program was really minor. And the info provided is pretty extensive. It's one of the reasons I believe PT, Chiropractors, "Active Release Therapy" (ART), etc are continually in business is that people just want to hear from an expert that "everything is going to be okay."