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    Outcome Independence: the sneaky problem

    Jan, Thanks so much for your thoughtful reply. I just sent you a private message with more details. It is all so difficult and I appreciate your comments. I will definitely try the resources you mentioned. FEAR is such a strong thing and I will continue to work on that!! :) THANKS
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    Outcome Independence: the sneaky problem

    I like this because you're being true about it. You truly wanted to go to the fair, but you can accept if you don't. I really don't want to be in pain, but I'll try to accept that it is here temporarily.
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    Outcome Independence: the sneaky problem

    I'm with Sarah, I can't "not care". If I didn't care I wouldn't be on this forum. All of us care. Alan, is there another way to look at this to help those of us struggling? I'm always going to care about having pain. I will never choose to have pain . I hate pain and it's ruining my...
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    A word about outcome independence

    I just can't grasp this one. I will never be indifferent about pain. If you ask me if I like it or want it, I will always say no. Not many people are truly indifferent about pain -- goes against human nature. I'm would imagine if you asked anyone of this forum if they wanted or liked pain...
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    New Program Day 4: Breaking the Pain Cycle

    I'm struggling with outcome independence. How can you be indifferent to pain? This is the hardest part for me and I think probably what I need to start healing. I just can't stop dreading and wishing away the pain. My example is if someone kicked you in the shin -- I would always choose to...
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    New Program Day 3: Identifying the Source

    I feel the same. I know my pain isn't some "structural", that it's TMS and muscle tension but my fear is also "I don't want to feel the pain" and hoping that it doesn't last too long. Somehow this feels different. I'm not scared of a degenerative disease , but rather that I'll going to keep...
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    Alan G. How does TMS cause tightness?

    Alan, that answer was SO interesting! The brain is causing the pain AND causing muscle tension to happen, which is how it feels so real, as there is real tension. One thing that you said authentic indifference -- I have SUCH a hard time with this. I can't seem to be curious or indifferent...
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    New Program Day 4: Breaking the Pain Cycle

    This was powerful. I watched this thinking I could NEVER turn my head like that. The pain would be unbearable! Which made me feel desperate that I will never be able to heal. I struggle with outcome independence. I simply can’t be ok with pain. I can’t not judge pain as bad. It is...
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    Alan G. How does TMS cause tightness?

    I’m new here. I attribute my pain to 90% myofascial pain. When I have acupuncture or body work done, the pain is alleviated (until I do something to trigger it again). Are you saying my pain is not originally fascial/muscle tension in nature? That I get a pain from my brain and then tense...
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