I am learning that TMS pain and symptoms mean absolutely nothing. My experience has been that I could be in intense pain like in the middle of the night last night and then this morning I decided I was still going to exercise (taking a long walk). I had minimal pain while walking. Then, I went to the grocery store and after about 10 minutes the pain started to intensify. I would not give in and kept shopping for another 10 minutes. The pain was still there but I would not give in. Then, I went to another grocery store and I had minimal pain but by the time I got to my car the pain was intense. No rhyme or reason. Alan Gordon has a great article about not measuring success by pain. I highly recommend reading it. I am learning that my success has nothing to do with whether I have pain or not; but like Alan Gordon explains success is when your not measuring the outcome by whether or not you have pain. Success is when you don't care whether you have pain or not. That surely takes the fear component out of the equation. Has anyone has this same experience or can anyone comment on this? G.R.